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Meh the cell processor looked revolutionary at the time.. it was in the days of the single and dual core processors
Not even! The Cell has been in development since 2000, so of course it was a revolution at the time.
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post #32 of 104
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Well, this time they already have the Blu-ray format sorted out and perfected, so it's one expense less they'll be having - and the drive itself is also cheaper to manufacture now.

The online service will probably be the (now security improved) same, sothe investment has already been made.

And as stated before, they won't probably be using Cell anymore, so they can save on developing costs for everybody.

And with the price of DDR3 so cheap, they will probably also ditch the XDR memory.

If they go with Intel and Nvidia they can build a console like this:
(over the top estimate with some retail priced items)

- Core i5 2400: $189.99 (you won't be overclocking a console, so no need for the 2500k)

- 4 GB of DDR3 1600 RAM: $45.99 (plenty and you won't need more since you don't heavily multitask or have many programs open in a console)

- Nvidia GTX 570 with a 28nm die shrink and 2.5 GB of GDDR5 - around $ 250

- custom made motherboard: around $50

- Blue Ray drive : around $40

- 500 GB HDD: $40

- custom made PSU: $40

- case, controller, packaging, OS: $50

Total: $ 705,98

The original PS3 was sold for $799, so it's not an unrealistic price.

Edit: and since the console won't be here for another year, those prices will be lower, adding to the fact I quoted retail prices for the Core i5, the DDR3, HDD, etc, so the final price will be lower. Probably around $ 599.

Would you buy a console like this ?
It was $500 for the 20gb, and $600 for the 60gb. Not 800.
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The people who think that the next PS will get the highest end parts of the time should also consider the cooling needed for the highest end GFX cards today (not so much the CPU anymore) When the PS3 came out the 7900GTX (?) was the highest end but it didin't need nearly as much cooling as current parts do. And the power consumption has gone through the roof since then. You would not want a console with a 400W TDP.
 
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The people who think that the next PS will get the highest end parts of the time should also consider the cooling needed for the highest end GFX cards today (not so much the CPU anymore) When the PS3 came out the 7900GTX (?) was the highest end but it didin't need nearly as much cooling as current parts do. And the power consumption has gone through the roof since then. You would not want a console with a 400W TDP.
The people who think that the next PS will get the highest end parts of the time should really think of the price.
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Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post
Well, this time they already have the Blu-ray format sorted out and perfected, so it's one expense less they'll be having - and the drive itself is also cheaper to manufacture now.

The online service will probably be the (now security improved) same, sothe investment has already been made.

And as stated before, they won't probably be using Cell anymore, so they can save on developing costs for everybody.

And with the price of DDR3 so cheap, they will probably also ditch the XDR memory.

If they go with Intel and Nvidia they can build a console like this:
(over the top estimate with some retail priced items)

- Core i5 2400: $189.99 (you won't be overclocking a console, so no need for the 2500k)

- 4 GB of DDR3 1600 RAM: $45.99 (plenty and you won't need more since you don't heavily multitask or have many programs open in a console)

- Nvidia GTX 570 with a 28nm die shrink and 2.5 GB of GDDR5 - around $ 250

- custom made motherboard: around $50

- Blue Ray drive : around $40

- 500 GB HDD: $40

- custom made PSU: $40

- case, controller, packaging, OS: $50

Total: $ 705,98

The original PS3 was sold for $799, so it's not an unrealistic price.

Edit: and since the console won't be here for another year, those prices will be lower, adding to the fact I quoted retail prices for the Core i5, the DDR3, HDD, etc, so the final price will be lower. Probably around $ 599.

Would you buy a console like this ?
Not to crap on your list but you don't need 2.5GPU VRAM, 1GB is plenty since 1080p would be most likely the highest resolution supported. 5770 actually would be my call as the perfect console GPU or a GTS450/460
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post #36 of 104
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The people who think that the next PS will get the highest end parts of the time should really think of the price.
that's why I said also

You have to remember though that if sony buys high end parts they will be paying much less for them.

But sony could go and try to cram top of the line stuff in the PS4 just like they did with PS3. Would be a massive investment and a huge risk again, and it would probably fail.
 
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post #37 of 104
They don't need to invest heavily they just need to make it backwards compatible with the PS3
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post #38 of 104
I remember reading way back, that they made the PS3 hard to develop for on purpose. Some stupid reason like, "We want to challenge our developers" or "In order to weed out the unfaithful developer studios".

Now they say they aren't heavily invested in PS4, heh. Like someone stated earlier, they should just throw on a Q9450 and like a low wattage 5770 or whatever. Might as well just make them PCs with low heat output.
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post #39 of 104
Makes sense, and the fact that they're learning from their mistakes is promising. Hopefully this time around I won't have to wait a year or two before I can actually afford one.
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mini itx ftw
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