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They can easily pick up a Bulldozer (or Power7) cpu, few GBs of ram, and a GTX570 or 580 then be done with it. Blu-ray still has enough capcity for games, and those hardware with good optimization could last them years.
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I always heard that game devs didn't have the software to fully utilize the hardware that was in the PS3.

Not sure if true?
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I'm pretty sure LA Noire was close to maxing out the PS3. No other game makes my PS3's fan spin up to full speed during the entire gameplay. It must be using most or all 7 SPE.
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You have some incredible amout of hate for OtherOS...

To me, it would be a fairly close matchup between what an XBox 720 and a PS4 would be. The XBox has the advantage when it comes to games and titles available - which would only be offset if the PS4 had backward compatibility and OtherOS that would make it more interesting. Unlike the PS2, Grand Turismo is not the killer application, because it was five years too late - unless they have GT6 ready for the PS4, which would make the selection difficult once again.
I don't hate the OtherOS. I just hate how everyone uses it as an excuse to complain about something.

The xbox has the advantage of the ridiculous fanboys who would kill their family before considering another console. They did have the advantage of games, but now they lack in exclusives and their only remaining few are mediocre at best. If they want a similar upper hand, they better have some awesome titles on launch. I can't see Sony making the same mistake twice and releasing with nothing again.
What does GT have anything to do with it? It would be one of the -many- amazing exclusives that came out, a bit too late. That was the only real flaw from the beginning of the PS3, besides the price. No one wanted to spend $600 for a console, no matter how amazing, if it didn't have decent launch titles. And like I said, I doubt Sony will make the same mistake. Thus, the new xbox better have something fancy up their sleeves, and I'm not talking about having a built in kinect either.
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Well, this time they already have the Blu-ray format sorted out and perfected, so it's one expense less they'll be having - and the drive itself is also cheaper to manufacture now.

The online service will probably be the (now security improved) same, sothe investment has already been made.

And as stated before, they won't probably be using Cell anymore, so they can save on developing costs for everybody.

And with the price of DDR3 so cheap, they will probably also ditch the XDR memory.

If they go with Intel and Nvidia they can build a console like this:
(over the top estimate with some retail priced items)

- Core i5 2400: $189.99 (you won't be overclocking a console, so no need for the 2500k)

- 4 GB of DDR3 1600 RAM: $45.99 (plenty and you won't need more since you don't heavily multitask or have many programs open in a console)

- Nvidia GTX 570 with a 28nm die shrink and 2.5 GB of GDDR5 - around $ 250

- custom made motherboard: around $50

- Blue Ray drive : around $40

- 500 GB HDD: $40

- custom made PSU: $40

- case, controller, packaging, OS: $50

Total: $ 705,98

The original PS3 was sold for $799, so it's not an unrealistic price.

Edit: and since the console won't be here for another year, those prices will be lower, adding to the fact I quoted retail prices for the Core i5, the DDR3, HDD, etc, so the final price will be lower. Probably around $ 599.

Would you buy a console like this ?
I would most definately buy a console like that,but what about heat?
Hardware like that put into a console sized case would run way too hot.
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Ps4 ??? Lmao

xbox 720 ftw !!!
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There's really no reason to invest in R&D for game consoles. Consoles are just computers now. They could probably just pay AMD and license the Fusion APU for the PS4. The E-350 + Radeon 6310 is powerful enough to do a bit of light PC gaming, I'm sure it could be amazing with all of the optimizations that comes with being a console.
They have always been "just computers" as you say. An E350 based console would be horrible.

Anyway Sony's big mistake was the custom Cell chip. It was a big money sink that took more effort to write good code for. They'll probably just buy modified versions of existing or soon to exist hardware.
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There's really no reason to invest in R&D for game consoles. Consoles are just computers now. They could probably just pay AMD and license the Fusion APU for the PS4. The E-350 + Radeon 6310 is powerful enough to do a bit of light PC gaming, I'm sure it could be amazing with all of the optimizations that comes with being a console.
The Llano APU would be much better for a gaming console than a E-350.
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Well, this time they already have the Blu-ray format sorted out and perfected, so it's one expense less they'll be having - and the drive itself is also cheaper to manufacture now.

The online service will probably be the (now security improved) same, sothe investment has already been made.

And as stated before, they won't probably be using Cell anymore, so they can save on developing costs for everybody.

And with the price of DDR3 so cheap, they will probably also ditch the XDR memory.

If they go with Intel and Nvidia they can build a console like this:
(over the top estimate with some retail priced items)

- Core i5 2400: $189.99 (you won't be overclocking a console, so no need for the 2500k)

- 4 GB of DDR3 1600 RAM: $45.99 (plenty and you won't need more since you don't heavily multitask or have many programs open in a console)

- Nvidia GTX 570 with a 28nm die shrink and 2.5 GB of GDDR5 - around $ 250

- custom made motherboard: around $50

- Blue Ray drive : around $40

- 500 GB HDD: $40

- custom made PSU: $40

- case, controller, packaging, OS: $50

Total: $ 705,98

The original PS3 was sold for $799, so it's not an unrealistic price.

Edit: and since the console won't be here for another year, those prices will be lower, adding to the fact I quoted retail prices for the Core i5, the DDR3, HDD, etc, so the final price will be lower. Probably around $ 599.

Would you buy a console like this ?
WAY cheaper when you buy in bulk, and also, if you were right about the price, you don't actually think they are going to leave themselves $90 profit to use also for shipping and handling / wages...
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They won't use a x86 CPU for consoles. Most recent consoles seems to choose IBM's PowerPC CPUs, so they'll probably pick something from the Power7 CPU line up, or they might go with Nvidia's Project Danver CPU, since Nvidia mentioned it's going to be used in a console.
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