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I am going for non ref cooling because I am saving money and can´t watercool.


I will list all potential candidates which meet all my requirements and would like you to recommend one:

Here again the criteria:

1.)Factory overclock
2.)Best overclockability according to tests and reviews/ I wanna hit 1GHZ
3.)Best cooling with external exhaust which probably won´t be the case with non ref
4.)Best possible resell value


Here the cards:

EVGA GTX 580 DS Superclocked 1.5GB:



Gainward GTX 580 Phantom 1.5GB:



ASUS DCU II GTX 580 1.5GB:


Gigabyte GTX 580 Super Overclock 1.5GB:


MSI GTX 580 Lightning 1.5GB:


Sparkle Calibre GTX 580 1.5GB:

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Some of these cards are much higher factory overclocked like for example the Gigabyte Overclock one.

Others have triple fan cooling like the Phantom , Sparkle and Gigabyte.

And again others have hardware modifactions which ensure a higher overlock and performance like the MSI.

Again I don´t care about the price as long if it is in my budget of 510€.
I also don´t care about 3GB or 2GB as long as it is in the budget.

.)I want to hit 1GHZ + so the card needs great overclockability
.)I want it to still be cool with those clocks so it needs great cooling
.)I want it to have a good resellvalue so brand,reputation etc is an aspect


Here also the 3GB versions:
http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=...32_2048#xf_top

So please the Nvidia pros recommend!


Please Note these things though:

If the 3GB versions overclock/cool better in any way I would not mind getting them because I don´t care about the additional 40-50€
Edited by Kung Pow - 5/28/11 at 6:08am
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Not sure where u got 2gb, they're all 1.5gb. But regardless hands down the Lighting is the best IMO, and overclocks like a champ! You Gabriel to keep in kind no 2 cards are the same, some will hit 1ghz others won't, as well as even if it does it might not always be beneficial, you just have to find the sweet spot. There are plenty of ppl here on the forums hitting a 1ghz clock but gettin better scores in teaching at like 960.

Also what resolution are u gaming at? That would be the only reason you'd need a 3gb.
Edited by HaVoK C89 - 5/28/11 at 5:45am
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I doubt you could reach 1 GHz, at least on air or with the default heatsink. The temps would be your doom, and i've never seen one clocked so high (maybe 900-950 MHz)

If i were to choose, i'd pick the MSI or the Gigabyte. All of those models are 1.5 GB, not 2 GB.
   
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Originally Posted by HaVoK C89 View Post
Not sure where u got 2gb, they're all 1.5gb. But regardless hands down the Lighting is the best IMO, and overclocks like a champ! You Gabriel to keep in kind no 2 cards are the same, some will hit 1ghz others won't, as well as even if it does it might not always be beneficial, you just have to find the sweet spot. There are plenty of ppl here on the forums hitting a 1ghz clock but gettin better scores in teaching at like 960.

Also what resolution are u gaming at? That would be the only reason you'd need a 3gb.
The cards are advertised as 2GB that is why I am doing that as well.

I play at 42" Sony Bravia 1920x1080p .

3GB VRAM can never hurt ....AA,AF and other VRAM intensive graphical settings also claim VRAM.
As long as it is in the budget I don´t care if it is 3GB or 2GB.


My requirements and potential candidates are listed in the OP.
MSI TWFIII is great but exhausts into the case which is not terrible but also not optimal.

What about Sparkle Calibre and Gigabyte Overclock?
The triple fan solution should provde better cooling thant the TWFIII?
Also they are vastly more overclocked.
Both 810 and 855MHZ factory overclock?that should almost guarantee 1GHZ + overlock .
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Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
The cards are advertised as 2GB that is why I am doing that as well.

I play at 42" Sony Bravia 1920x1080p .

3GB VRAM can never hurt ....AA,AF and other VRAM intensive graphical settings also claim VRAM.
As long as it is in the budget I don´t care if it is 3GB or 2GB.


My requirements and potential candidates are listed in the OP.
MSI TWFIII is great but exhausts into the case which is not terrible but also not optimal.

What about Sparkle Calibre and Gigabyte Overclock?
The triple fan solution should provde better cooling thant the TWFIII?
Also they are vastly more overclocked.
Both 810 and 855MHZ factory overclock?that should almost guarantee 1GHZ + overlock .
These cards are 1.5 GB. THere are only 1.5 and 3 GB models, not 2 GB. I'd only get a 3 GB card if you play on suround with at least 4x AA @ 1920x1080 in each monitor. If you only game on one, 1.5 GB is enough.

Also, the default clock of the 580 is 772 MHz. Factory OCing does not guarantee anything, besides of the card being able to stand the clocks tested on factory.

MSI has claimed it's card can reach 1 GHz with the stock cooler, but i heavily doubt it. I just recommend it (along with Gigabyte and EVGA, tho i've never tried EVGA's) ecause they are well-known manufacturers, and their non-ref reviews are pretty good.
Edited by Starbomba - 5/28/11 at 5:57am
   
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Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
The cards are advertised as 2GB that is why I am doing that as well.

I play at 42" Sony Bravia 1920x1080p .

3GB VRAM can never hurt ....AA,AF and other VRAM intensive graphical settings also claim VRAM.
As long as it is in the budget I don´t care if it is 3GB or 2GB.


My requirements and potential candidates are listed in the OP.
MSI TWFIII is great but exhausts into the case which is not terrible but also not optimal.

What about Sparkle Calibre and Gigabyte Overclock?
The triple fan solution should provde better cooling thant the TWFIII?
Also they are vastly more overclocked.
Both 810 and 855MHZ factory overclock?that should almost guarantee 1GHZ + overlock .
The memory is 1.5GB for sure. And you don't have to worry with that if you gaming at 1080p.
Gigabyte SOC is great.
EVGA is also great.
ASUS is also great but crazy because it use 3 slots. Not a good idea if you want to SLI.
No guarantee they'll hit 1 GHz. But 950 MHz might be possible. So far, I've never seen GTX 580 hitting 1 GHz.
1 GHz is a psychological barrier of GPU Clock, eh?
Cards from NVIDIA which aren't too hard to hit 1 GHz are GTX 550 Ti and GTX 560 Ti. For GTX 570 and 580, you should already happy if it can break 950 MHz.
    
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The cards are advertised as 2GB I know they are 1.5GB now stop obsessing with that people I edited the OP


There are a lot of people hitting 1GHZ on their 580´s.

And factory overclocked cards do have a higher probabailty of overclocking better since they are non ref and mostly have modifications and upgrades the ref cards don´t have.


Let´s try to divide the cards I posted in the OP:

1.)Highest probability of hitting 1 GHZ based on reviews,tests and customer experiences.

2.)Best cooling based on external/internal exhausting, active cooling ability, should compensate voltage bumps


Again I do not care if it is 2-3 slot card , 1.5 or 3GB , or radioactive as long as it will overclock to 1GHZ+ and have great cooling!
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If you dont care if its 2 or 3gb vram, just go the the 6970 and save yourself a ****load of money.

or if you want the 5 fps for 150-200 euro's more. your choise
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omg wow that gainward looks damn sexy, what can you guys say about it?
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