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After watching this I am pretty sure the MSI GTX 580 Lightning is the way to go.


BUT

There is one other GPU competing with it.

The ASUS Matrix GTX 580.

Both cards have 2x8 pin connectors , both claim there cooler is better than the other one´s , both have 18 phases and both say their card will overclock better.

Which one to go with?


ASUS Matrix GTX 580 vs MSI GTX 580 Lightning


As a sidenote:I also heard something about a MSI GTX 580 Lightnig X what is that all about?
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Lightning....Asus takes up 3 slots I believe.
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Originally Posted by Strider_2001 View Post
Lightning....Asus takes up 3 slots I believe.
That won´t matter to me.
But from a strictly performance, overclocking and cooling point of view.

Which card makes the race?

MSI GTX 580 lightning or ASUS Matrix GTX 580?

And as a sidenote can somebody tell me what and if there is a MSI GTX 580 Lightning X?
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Cant guarantee an overclock, although getting the highest binned chips,i.e those with highest stock freq would help your odds.
 
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I have the GTX 580 from Galaxy that came with the Arctic Accelero Xtreme Plus Cooler for $435 USD. Checkout my sig rig.
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post #26 of 47
There are no guarantees with overclocking, but unless your on some serious water/ln2 cooling, you won't hit 1ghz, plain and simple. It depends mostly on the gpu itself, you would have to get an absolute golden 580 to reach that on volts that are supplied from stock 1.138-1.15v. Most people who have reached 1ghz have probably volt modded and are on ln2, just a heads up.

However, I would have to say that I would personally wait for the matrix from asus. Their 3 slot coolers are amazing and quiet. The lightning's cooler is also just as amazing, however the lightning's is a good bit noisier than the direct cu II triple slot coolers.
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Do non-ref cards differ in length from ref cards? Is there any reason to get a non-ref card over a ref card if I don't plan on OCing it?
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post #28 of 47
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Originally Posted by Blindrage606 View Post
Cant guarantee an overclock, although getting the highest binned chips,i.e those with highest stock freq would help your odds.
That would be the Gigabyte SuperOverclock but it cools considerably worse than the GTX 580 Lightning:




Noise does not matter to me either just plain raw performance and overclockability.
And to an extent overclocking efficiency can be determined with for example amount of phases or VRM´s.

If there is no physical difference between the Lightning and Mars which determines their overclocking ability meaning equal amount of VRM´s , phases , same features etc then it won´t matter which one of these I take right?

I found something else in my price range though.
Does this card have the same physical means of the Lightning 580 that deliver this extreme overclocking potential?
Because some purchasers of that card claimed it would overclock very poorly.
What do you guys think?
Is it a better and higher overclockable alternative to the EVGA hydro copper?

Because right now we have basically narrowed it down to the following:


1.)MSI GTX 580 Lightning

2.)ASUS Mars GTX 580

3.)MSI GTX 580 Hydrogen

Hope you can add your oppinions till we can find the most efficent (theoretical)overclocker with the best performance, cooling and resell value.

Here my personal oppinion.

After what I have heard and read Lightning and Mars should be pretty much on par in terms of overclockability since they share the exact same overclocking improving features.
Both cards should have a great resell value though.

Hydrogen should have the best cooling but due to a lot of customer reviews it strangely doesn´t overclock so well O.o
Also the resellvalue of this card won´t be good since ebay buyers to 80% concentrate on air cooling gpu´s.
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post #29 of 47
The chances are that you would not hit even close to 1GHz simply due VRM overheating when pushing high voltage necessary for such high OC..

Only full cover water block (or something even better) would give you a chance for taking a shot for 1GHz OC..

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post #30 of 47
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Please check out Post #28 and try to anwer to all of it
And just FYI I only want 1GHZ+ for benching I would be gaming with 940-960 so no watercooling needed.
Also I don´t wanna waste any money on watercooling right now because I am saving for Kepler.
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