Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Keyboards › Replacement for Lycosa (Mechanical)Updated:03/June/2011 Added Pictures
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Replacement for Lycosa (Mechanical)Updated:03/June/2011 Added Pictures

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
So i'm currently using a Razer Lycosa Mirror edition. and i've been looking at some mechanical keyboards.

Recommend me a few, i've been reading the mechanical keyboard guide, and i found DasKeyboard and some MajesTouch sold in Aussie.

And i'm just wondering if the keys are interchangeable, i mean if i can relocate all QWERTY keys? means would Q fit in B or other key locations? i'm looking to change keyboard layouts from QWERTY to something which would enable me to type faster. =) so at the same time, would someone recommend a keyboard layout?

So, i play lots of FPS (L4D, COD and in the future BF3), and recently got back to playing DoTA. I do love to surf the net so i type quite a bit. and currently am pointing towards in the black cherry switches. But do feel free to persuade me. =)

I'll prefer if it's made out of PBT as i believe they are more durable?
Saw the Limited Edition Ducky 9008-G2 is there any difference with the normal ones? I'm looking at it from http://mechkeyboards.com/products.html
I am also looking at DasKeyboard which i think are not black-cherry but i kinda like the way it looks. Would there be a diff between silent edition and the normal? does it make a big difference? would i be able to change my typing style instead of getting a silent version?

I know this is kinda in a mess, i was reading around the guide and checking out links while editing my post. So forgive me. Was worried if i forgot something. =P

Thanks in advance,
YtKwonG

EDIT:
I'm actually looking at a website from Taiwan that ships ducky and DAS from taiwan for $10 shipping, i'm wondering what's the difference between the ducky 9008 and 9008G2? is it just a different PCB? They even have the Das model in Black Cherry
Edited by YtKwonG - 6/2/11 at 3:09pm
My Q9650
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9650 @ 4.0 1.296V GigaByte EP45-UD3P MSI GTX580 Lightning G-Skill Pi 4GB 1100MHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2xF3 500gb RAID0+2xWDBlack 640g RAID0+1TB WD Windows Vista Ultimate 23.6" Asus Ducky 9008 Black-on-Black Keys 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsiar 1000HX HAF 932 Razer Lechesis Razer Mantis Speed 
  hide details  
Reply
My Q9650
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9650 @ 4.0 1.296V GigaByte EP45-UD3P MSI GTX580 Lightning G-Skill Pi 4GB 1100MHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2xF3 500gb RAID0+2xWDBlack 640g RAID0+1TB WD Windows Vista Ultimate 23.6" Asus Ducky 9008 Black-on-Black Keys 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsiar 1000HX HAF 932 Razer Lechesis Razer Mantis Speed 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
So i'm currently using a Razer Lycosa Mirror edition. and i've been looking at some mechanical keyboards.
Oh man, I feel your pain. I upgraded from the Lycosa to a mechanical keyboard and the difference is like night and day, black and white, hot and cold. I have a Filco Majestouch with Cherry MX Blues (it was called the Tactile Touch on EliteKeyboards.com), and it makes the Lycosa feel like a cheap and flimsy low-quality toy. So, you're in for a real treat!


Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
Recommend me a few, i've been reading the mechanical keyboard guide, and i found DasKeyboard and some MajesTouch sold in Aussie.
Which Majestouch is it? I mean, is it the "Majestouch-2"?


Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
And i'm just wondering if the keys are interchangeable, i mean if i can relocate all QWERTY keys? means would Q fit in B or other key locations? i'm looking to change keyboard layouts from QWERTY to something which would enable me to type faster. =) so at the same time, would someone recommend a keyboard layout?
They're interchangeable, however only in the technical sense. Each row has a certain key shape, so changing them around would kinda ruin the feel. So I recommend getting a keyboard with blank keys.


Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
So, i play lots of FPS (L4D, COD and in the future BF3), and recently got back to playing DoTA. I do love to surf the net so i type quite a bit. and currently am pointing towards in the black cherry switches. But do feel free to persuade me. =)
In the world of mechanical switches (pretending that rubber domes don't exist), the Cherry MX Blacks are almost the worst for typing. If you do a lot of typing, then I recommend a keyboard with either the Cherry MX Blues or Browns.


Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
I'll prefer if it's made out of PBT as i believe they are more durable?
Meh, I think we're splitting hairs here. I mean, my keys aren't made from PBT and I have no durability issues. I think the plastic my keys are made out of is the same cheap stuff used to make the Lycosa's keys and perhaps also any rubber dome keyboard.


Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
Saw the Limited Edition Ducky 9008-G2 is there any difference with the normal ones? I'm looking at it from http://mechkeyboards.com/products.html
I have to leave this up to those who know.


Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
I am also looking at DasKeyboard which i think are not black-cherry but i kinda like the way it looks. Would there be a diff between silent edition and the normal? does it make a big difference? would i be able to change my typing style instead of getting a silent version?
You're right: for some reason, there are no Das keyboards with the Cherry MX Blacks.

Now, the difference between the "Silent" models and the rest is that the "Silent" models have the Cherry MX Browns. However, they're not truly silent. Instead, it's just that the switch itself doesn't make a mechanical click like the Blues do. I mean, the keyboard can still sound pretty noisy to people (the descriptive word to use here is "clacky").

The other difference is that the Cherry MX Browns have a "lighter" spring than the Blues which translates to a switch that's noticeably easier to press down than the Blues. However, that's not to say that the Blues are hard to press or that the Blues can result in your fingers getting fatigued. Both of these switches are a joy to type on all day and both of them really make you want to type all day, 24/7!

Another difference is the feel of the Blues is a bit more precise than the feel of the Browns - or perhaps a bit more "crisp". I think that's why the Blues are great for typing. Plus there's the mechanical click that the Blues make which is quite satisfying (at least I think so).

So they're both great, however many enthusiasts feel that the Browns are the best switch to choose if there's like an even mix of gaming and typing. One of the reasons why some enthusiasts don't like the Blues for gaming is because the actuation point is lower in the key travel than the reset point which presents a problem with double tapping for some people (because it's not possible to get a double tap unless the switch is allowed to come all the way back up). However, there are also many enthusiasts who don't have a problem because when they double tap, they just make two quick key hits in a row to make their double tap which means they let the switch come all the way back up anyway.

Therefore, I think I recommend going with a keyboard that has the Cherry MX Browns, however don't rule the Blues out. The Blues are just as awesome (I know I love 'em).


Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
I know this is kinda in a mess, i was reading around the guide and checking out links while editing my post. So forgive me. Was worried if i forgot something. =P

Thanks in advance,
YtKwonG
It's all good!
Edited by TwoCables - 5/28/11 at 11:41am
It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
  hide details  
Reply
It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Oh man, I feel your pain. I upgraded from the Lycosa to a mechanical keyboard and the difference is like night and day, black and white, hot and cold. I have a Filco Majestouch with Cherry MX Blues (it was called the Tactile Touch on EliteKeyboards.com), and it makes the Lycosa feel like a cheap and flimsy low-quality toy. So, you're in for a real treat!
First of all. Thanks for the reply. it's detailed and answered all of my questions. =) i was pretty sad when i refresh every few minutes and there was no reply. =P it showed u were browsing the topic for a few minutes, then it disappeared, 2 minutes later ur reply showed. =)


Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Which Majestouch is it? I mean, is it the "Majestouch-2"?
http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/products/1275/ yeah, they're of the Majestouch-2 series.


Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
They're interchangeable, however only in the technical sense. Each row has a certain key shape, so changing them around would kinda ruin the feel. So I recommend getting a keyboard with blank keys.
Ah, okay. what about using for Ducky's replacement caps on DasKeyboard? The Das's from taiwan come with chinese keys, so i was thinking of just getting blank keys for Ducky and replacing it. (If i get Das from them that is) http://mechkeyboards.com/keycap.html <=== caps

Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
In the world of mechanical switches (pretending that rubber domes don't exist), the Cherry MX Blacks are almost the worst for typing. If you do a lot of typing, then I recommend a keyboard with either the Cherry MX Blues or Browns.

Now, the difference between the "Silent" models and the rest is that the "Silent" models have the Cherry MX Browns. However, they're not truly silent. Instead, it's just that the switch itself doesn't make a mechanical click like the Blues do. I mean, the keyboard can still sound pretty noisy to people (the descriptive word to use here is "clacky").

The other difference is that the Cherry MX Browns have a "lighter" spring than the Blues which translates to a switch that's noticeably easier to press down than the Blues. However, that's not to say that the Blues are hard to press or that the Blues can result in your fingers getting fatigued. Both of these switches are a joy to type on all day and both of them really make you want to type all day, 24/7!

Another difference is the feel of the Blues is a bit more precise than the feel of the Browns - or perhaps a bit more "crisp". I think that's why the Blues are great for typing. Plus there's the mechanical click that the Blues make which is quite satisfying (at least I think so).

So they're both great, however many enthusiasts feel that the Browns are the best switch to choose if there's like an even mix of gaming and typing. One of the reasons why some enthusiasts don't like the Blues for gaming is because the actuation point is lower in the key travel than the reset point which presents a problem with double tapping for some people (because it's not possible to get a double tap unless the switch is allowed to come all the way back up). However, there are also many enthusiasts who don't have a problem because when they double tap, they just make two quick key hits in a row to make their double tap which means they let the switch come all the way back up anyway.

Therefore, I think I recommend going with a keyboard that has the Cherry MX Browns, however don't rule the Blues out. The Blues are just as awesome (I know I love 'em).
Ah, i thought blacks were okay for typing, guess i'm wrong. =)
Yeah, i've been seeing people recommending the Cherry Blues and browns everywhere. I'm actually towards Blues. I'll like to have something telling me when i should stop so maybe i could change the way i type.

From what i read, i though both blue and brown have the same actuation (2mm for both?). Ah i get it now, Actuation is below reset point. But when gaming, i release the keys completely, from playing GunzOnline before.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Meh, I think we're splitting hairs here. I mean, my keys aren't made from PBT and I have no durability issues. I think the plastic my keys are made out of is the same cheap stuff used to make the Lycosa's keys and perhaps also any rubber dome keyboard.
Yeah i know, but they say PBT don't shine as fast as ABS, so i'm not really sure. i like the lycosa keys, they are smooth and mine haven't worn out even after two years, there's abit of scratches around but i'm still happy with the condition.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
You're right: for some reason, there are no Das keyboards with the Cherry MX Blacks.
Yeah, i don't even see it on their official website but i'm able to find it from this taiwan PC reseller. looks dodgy now that i think about it. =P

To guys who know more about Ducky keyboards, are there much of a difference between then 9000 and the 9008? it's just the 4 buttons on the top right right? other than that, most of it should be the same?

So now, i'm actually deciding between getting the Ducky 9008 with 2 sets of Key Caps with bonus 104 key caps, while at the same time i'm getting the Ducky wrist rest and also a another set of 104 BLANK key caps. This goes to approx AU$190 with shipping. So now i'm just wondering if this should be what i should get. Or should i get a different model? I am actually also looking at Deck, but Deck's kinda out of the question as there is no local dealer in australia and i can't find anyone who has it in stock.
Edited by YtKwonG - 5/28/11 at 1:37pm
My Q9650
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9650 @ 4.0 1.296V GigaByte EP45-UD3P MSI GTX580 Lightning G-Skill Pi 4GB 1100MHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2xF3 500gb RAID0+2xWDBlack 640g RAID0+1TB WD Windows Vista Ultimate 23.6" Asus Ducky 9008 Black-on-Black Keys 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsiar 1000HX HAF 932 Razer Lechesis Razer Mantis Speed 
  hide details  
Reply
My Q9650
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9650 @ 4.0 1.296V GigaByte EP45-UD3P MSI GTX580 Lightning G-Skill Pi 4GB 1100MHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2xF3 500gb RAID0+2xWDBlack 640g RAID0+1TB WD Windows Vista Ultimate 23.6" Asus Ducky 9008 Black-on-Black Keys 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsiar 1000HX HAF 932 Razer Lechesis Razer Mantis Speed 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
First of all. Thanks for the reply. it's detailed and answered all of my questions. =) i was pretty sad when i refresh every few minutes and there was no reply. =P it showed u were browsing the topic for a few minutes, then it disappeared, 2 minutes later ur reply showed. =)
The reason why it does that is because there is an automatic 15-minute timeout on this message board. So when I log in, I always click "Remember Me" so that when I time-out in the middle of typing up a big reply, the action of posting that reply (or previewing it, or just clicking anything really) automatically logs me back in. If I didn't click "Remember Me", then I run the risk of losing everything I've typed due to not being automatically logged back in.

Anyway, you're welcome. However, don't be discouraged by not receiving replies right away. Due to how busy OCN is, I've found that it's best to wait like 12-24 hours for replies.

Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/products/1275/ yeah, they're of the Majestouch-2 series.
If I remember correctly (and I hope I'm not), then I think the "-2" series has PCB-mounted switches as opposed to the plate-mounted switches of the previous iteration of the Majestouch series. This can reduce the crisp/solid feeling just a little bit due to the softer material of the PCB - but some people actually prefer the feeling of PCB-mounted switches!


Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
Ah, okay. what about using for Ducky's replacement caps on DasKeyboard? The Das's from taiwan come with chinese keys, so i was thinking of just getting blank keys for Ducky and replacing it. (If i get Das from them that is) http://mechkeyboards.com/keycap.html <=== caps
I don't know. The shapes might be slightly different from the stock caps on the Das Model S, but it might be just fine if every single cap is replaced as opposed to just some of them.

However, I don't know how the exact shapes of the keys compare between these 2 keyboards (row for row, that is).


Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
Ah, i thought blacks were okay for typing, guess i'm wrong. =)
Well, they're still a big improvement over rubber domes except there's no tactile feedback. It's basically just you and the spring. Some people even prefer the blacks for typing, so choose carefully.


Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
Yeah, i've been seeing people recommending the Cherry Blues and browns everywhere. I'm actually towards Blues. I'll like to have something telling me when i should stop so maybe i could change the way i type.
Yeah, it even changed the way I type. I used to keep my palms planted on my wrist rest while I type and I also used to practically hit every key; but now I hover my wrists while I type and I basically just touch every key with just a little bit of a tap - just enough to actuate without bottoming out. However, I had to practice this new technique (and it was well worth it).

I even tried to go back to my Lycosa for a day just for fun, but I couldn't do it because my hands started to hurt a little bit after just an hour of doing my usual routine here on OCN. I was even typing with the same light, hovering-wrists approach but it still didn't work.


Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
From what i read, i though both blue and brown have the same actuation (2mm for both?).
That's what I've read too, so I believe it.


Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
Ah i get it now, Actuation is below reset point. But when gaming, i release the keys completely, from playing GunzOnline before.
Me too. I think it would take me a very long time to refine my technique to ride the point of actuation as some people do to the point where I would finally learn why some gamers don't like the Cherry MX Blues.


Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
Yeah i know, but they say PBT don't shine as fast as ABS, so i'm not really sure. i like the lycosa keys, they are smooth and mine haven't worn out even after two years, there's abit of scratches around but i'm still happy with the condition.
Oh, I suppose that's a good point. I haven't talked about the durability of keycaps in a long time, so I actually forgot about the eventual shine.

So, I guess it might be worth looking into. If you're wondering about the condition of my keys, then I guess I should mention that I've had my Majestouch since March 9th of 2010, and the keys are nowhere near as shiny as they should be after this much use. I think that this is due to me being extremely anal about the cleanliness and dryness of my finger tips for the sake of my keyboard. I even vacuum it clean every single day (I leave the keycaps on though).

In other words, if my fingertips are sweaty in the least bit, then I will do whatever it takes to eliminate that. I'll either go wash my hands and then run cool water of them so that my hands are a little cold, or I'll turn a fan on and have it on its lowest setting blowing at me. Or if I eat something that leaves my fingers even a little bit greasy or oily, then I'll go wash my hands before I touch my keyboard even one time.

I never did this with my Lycosa. I mean, I just never really cared. Back then, a keyboard was a keyboard, and so I never really felt any attachment to any of them. All of that changed when I got my Majestouch. The funny thing is that I never once thought that I should do all these crazy things for the sake of avoiding that shine - I think I just did it because I love my keyboard. So, this is the cleanest keyboard I have ever owned. hehe


Quote:
Originally Posted by YtKwonG View Post
Yeah, i don't even see it on their official website but i'm able to find it from this taiwan PC reseller. looks dodgy now that i think about it. =P
Oh, I see; they're just calling it a black keyboard - which it is. I mean, they're just referring to its finish. That is, if you're referring to the listings on AusPCMarket's site.
It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
  hide details  
Reply
It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 19
blackwidow ult
Liquid Ocelot
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I7 920 @ 3.8Ghz Gigabyte EX58-UD3R Sapphire HD6950 OC'd Core 950 Mem 1400 stock volts 6Gigs 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
1Tb WD Caviar Black Windows 7 64-bit 24" HP ZR24w IPS :)) Razer Blackwidow Ult. 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair 850w Antec 102 Razer Deathadder 
  hide details  
Reply
Liquid Ocelot
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I7 920 @ 3.8Ghz Gigabyte EX58-UD3R Sapphire HD6950 OC'd Core 950 Mem 1400 stock volts 6Gigs 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
1Tb WD Caviar Black Windows 7 64-bit 24" HP ZR24w IPS :)) Razer Blackwidow Ult. 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair 850w Antec 102 Razer Deathadder 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tralala View Post
blackwidow ult
Ewww

I would say any of the following
Ducky, Filco, Das and Leopold. All good manufacturers with tested quality, the BW has tested for horrible quality.
Herp
(1 item)
 
  
Other
Dolla Billz Yall! 
  hide details  
Reply
Herp
(1 item)
 
  
Other
Dolla Billz Yall! 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 19
according to who?
Liquid Ocelot
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I7 920 @ 3.8Ghz Gigabyte EX58-UD3R Sapphire HD6950 OC'd Core 950 Mem 1400 stock volts 6Gigs 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
1Tb WD Caviar Black Windows 7 64-bit 24" HP ZR24w IPS :)) Razer Blackwidow Ult. 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair 850w Antec 102 Razer Deathadder 
  hide details  
Reply
Liquid Ocelot
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I7 920 @ 3.8Ghz Gigabyte EX58-UD3R Sapphire HD6950 OC'd Core 950 Mem 1400 stock volts 6Gigs 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
1Tb WD Caviar Black Windows 7 64-bit 24" HP ZR24w IPS :)) Razer Blackwidow Ult. 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair 850w Antec 102 Razer Deathadder 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 19
We have multiple threads regarding either issues with the keyboard or people compiling all the known issues with the boards.
Edited by Scrappy - 5/28/11 at 2:14pm
Herp
(1 item)
 
  
Other
Dolla Billz Yall! 
  hide details  
Reply
Herp
(1 item)
 
  
Other
Dolla Billz Yall! 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
The reason why it does that is because there is an automatic 15-minute timeout on this message board. So when I log in, I always click "Remember Me" so that when I time-out in the middle of typing up a big reply, the action of posting that reply (or previewing it, or just clicking anything really) automatically logs me back in. If I didn't click "Remember Me", then I run the risk of losing everything I've typed due to not being automatically logged back in.

Anyway, you're welcome. However, don't be discouraged by not receiving replies right away. Due to how busy OCN is, I've found that it's best to wait like 12-24 hours for replies.


If I remember correctly (and I hope I'm not), then I think the "-2" series has PCB-mounted switches as opposed to the plate-mounted switches of the previous iteration of the Majestouch series. This can reduce the crisp/solid feeling just a little bit due to the softer material of the PCB - but some people actually prefer the feeling of PCB-mounted switches!



I don't know. The shapes might be slightly different from the stock caps on the Das Model S, but it might be just fine if every single cap is replaced as opposed to just some of them.

However, I don't know how the exact shapes of the keys compare between these 2 keyboards (row for row, that is).



Well, they're still a big improvement over rubber domes except there's no tactile feedback. It's basically just you and the spring. Some people even prefer the blacks for typing, so choose carefully.



Yeah, it even changed the way I type. I used to keep my palms planted on my wrist rest while I type and I also used to practically hit every key; but now I hover my wrists while I type and I basically just touch every key with just a little bit of a tap - just enough to actuate without bottoming out. However, I had to practice this new technique (and it was well worth it).

I even tried to go back to my Lycosa for a day just for fun, but I couldn't do it because my hands started to hurt a little bit after just an hour of doing my usual routine here on OCN. I was even typing with the same light, hovering-wrists approach but it still didn't work.



That's what I've read too, so I believe it.



Me too. I think it would take me a very long time to refine my technique to ride the point of actuation as some people do to the point where I would finally learn why some gamers don't like the Cherry MX Blues.



Oh, I suppose that's a good point. I haven't talked about the durability of keycaps in a long time, so I actually forgot about the eventual shine.

So, I guess it might be worth looking into. If you're wondering about the condition of my keys, then I guess I should mention that I've had my Majestouch since March 9th of 2010, and the keys are nowhere near as shiny as they should be after this much use. I think that this is due to me being extremely anal about the cleanliness and dryness of my finger tips for the sake of my keyboard. I even vacuum it clean every single day (I leave the keycaps on though).

In other words, if my fingertips are sweaty in the least bit, then I will do whatever it takes to eliminate that. I'll either go wash my hands and then run cool water of them so that my hands are a little cold, or I'll turn a fan on and have it on its lowest setting blowing at me. Or if I eat something that leaves my fingers even a little bit greasy or oily, then I'll go wash my hands before I touch my keyboard even one time.

I never did this with my Lycosa. I mean, I just never really cared. Back then, a keyboard was a keyboard, and so I never really felt any attachment to any of them. All of that changed when I got my Majestouch. The funny thing is that I never once thought that I should do all these crazy things for the sake of avoiding that shine - I think I just did it because I love my keyboard. So, this is the cleanest keyboard I have ever owned. hehe



Oh, I see; they're just calling it a black keyboard - which it is. I mean, they're just referring to its finish. That is, if you're referring to the listings on AusPCMarket's site.
Hey, thanks for the reply again. I'm actually pretty excited to get into mechanical keyboards, i never really gave it much thought, but today i just had the impulse to shop, and when i found ducky keyboards, i just had to do more research. XD (thus the 2 minute refresh while watching tv)

about the black cherry switches, it's on the taiwanese website. Nah, i gave up buying from aussie sites as i was able to go straight to a taiwanese PC dealer which charges $10 for delivery and costs at least 30% less, but it's in chinese and takes quite some time for me to read through, but i'm pretty sure they state it's black switches. but nah, forget about that now. =)

The way i type currently is with my hands hovered unless i'm resting or reading something, other than that, my wrist never touches my wrist rest, i guess it was because i never used my wrist rest for 18 months since i got my lycosa.

I might not be getting the Das after all, i showed my gf the ducky and the das, she preferred ducky, but not until she saw Deck's but i can't find stock in most of the e-retailers and the don't stock it in Aussie. so, guess i'll use the ducky for now. =)
My Q9650
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9650 @ 4.0 1.296V GigaByte EP45-UD3P MSI GTX580 Lightning G-Skill Pi 4GB 1100MHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2xF3 500gb RAID0+2xWDBlack 640g RAID0+1TB WD Windows Vista Ultimate 23.6" Asus Ducky 9008 Black-on-Black Keys 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsiar 1000HX HAF 932 Razer Lechesis Razer Mantis Speed 
  hide details  
Reply
My Q9650
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9650 @ 4.0 1.296V GigaByte EP45-UD3P MSI GTX580 Lightning G-Skill Pi 4GB 1100MHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2xF3 500gb RAID0+2xWDBlack 640g RAID0+1TB WD Windows Vista Ultimate 23.6" Asus Ducky 9008 Black-on-Black Keys 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsiar 1000HX HAF 932 Razer Lechesis Razer Mantis Speed 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrappy View Post
^Ewww

I would say any of the following
Ducky, Filco, Das and Leopold. All good manufacturers with tested quality, the BW has been tested and has horrible quality.
I'll have to agree with this, i wouldn't touch another razer product... most important of all they are overpriced. That said, lots of people are having problems with the blackwidow, i forgot which key it was i think their space key knocks the alt key. And i don't want that quality for $150
My Q9650
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9650 @ 4.0 1.296V GigaByte EP45-UD3P MSI GTX580 Lightning G-Skill Pi 4GB 1100MHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2xF3 500gb RAID0+2xWDBlack 640g RAID0+1TB WD Windows Vista Ultimate 23.6" Asus Ducky 9008 Black-on-Black Keys 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsiar 1000HX HAF 932 Razer Lechesis Razer Mantis Speed 
  hide details  
Reply
My Q9650
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9650 @ 4.0 1.296V GigaByte EP45-UD3P MSI GTX580 Lightning G-Skill Pi 4GB 1100MHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2xF3 500gb RAID0+2xWDBlack 640g RAID0+1TB WD Windows Vista Ultimate 23.6" Asus Ducky 9008 Black-on-Black Keys 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsiar 1000HX HAF 932 Razer Lechesis Razer Mantis Speed 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Keyboards
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Keyboards › Replacement for Lycosa (Mechanical)Updated:03/June/2011 Added Pictures