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I listen to mostly Metal and I think I would prefer closed headphones as it seems they give a more emersive experience.

What soundcard should I purchase that suits the A700 if I get it?

I do not want anything overkill but I also don't want to be bottlenecked. I have a small budget too since I am going in to college for computer systems engineering.
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Originally Posted by rivaldog;13671950 
How is the bass on the A700's? Do you game with it? If you do, can you easily hear foot steps with them in games like Battlefield Bad Company 2?

I do game with it, however I'm not a fan of subjectivity without some sort of a baseline. That and I don't have any Battlefield game beyond BF2142 haha.

anyway, from my laptop I ran test tones generated from Audacity. Low volume maintained so my ears didn't bleed and to prevent sinusoid clipping.

~33mV (peak-peak) maintained throughout and used frequencies from 100Hz down to 20Hz and noted where each headphone's output had a significant decrease.

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Oscilloscope used is a DSO Nano V2
Auto-measurements shown for reference, 50Hz arbitrarily chosen. other measurements were done at same reference levels except frequency.

In any case...
  • ATH-A700s reached 30Hz with slight, but noticeable decrease. 25Hz was significantly quieter so the F3 is somewhere between 40Hz and 30Hz and an F6 somewhere between 20Hz and 30Hz it seems.
  • HD555's reached 50Hz with noticeable decrease, 40Hz had significant decrease.

What to make of what I just said...
The ATH-A700's go lower than the HD555's. I still need an RTA setup and other testing equipment to plot frequency v. SPL so I can't go much further than that.

edit
now to show why I hate subjectivity and why I need to figure a way to objectively measure these things...
Here's Headroom's Freq. v. SPL of the ATH-A700s and HD555's.
graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=2631&graphID[]=563

It may be closed v. open when it comes to perceived bass response going on here but I don't know.
Edited by Firestorm252 - 5/28/11 at 8:53pm
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In all 100% honesty. I haven't a clue what 90% of that means. lol The bottom chart, I can understand that. Not much else xD lol I have BF2142 too, really fun game. Can you hear foot steps well in any games that you play? I was reading a post on Sound Cards vs. On board audio, and they author had a sound card that just didn't work very well with BFBC2 compared to how easily they could hear footsteps in MW2 and I really want an audio set up that will work great with BF3 when its released
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Originally Posted by rivaldog;13677421 
In all 100% honesty. I haven't a clue what 90% of that means. lol The bottom chart, I can understand that. Not much else xD lol I have BF2142 too, really fun game. Can you hear foot steps well in any games that you play? I was reading a post on Sound Cards vs. On board audio, and they author had a sound card that just didn't work very well with BFBC2 compared to how easily they could hear footsteps in MW2 and I really want an audio set up that will work great with BF3 when its released

oh uh, woops redface.gif
sorry, you caught me while I was doing some calculations so all the jargon made sense in my head at the time haha.

but I guess yeah, the ATH-A700's are good for footsteps. In an old Q3 mod, Urban Terror, I can hear people running and it isn't odd for me to simply break into a run in the opposite direction when I hear a characteristic "tink" as a grenade bounces nearby (if you can hear it, it's landed close enough to hurt you)
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how about the ad700s i might buy a pair..never had open b4 tho
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Originally Posted by Firestorm252;13677925 
oh uh, woops redface.gif
sorry, you caught me while I was doing some calculations so all the jargon made sense in my head at the time haha.

but I guess yeah, the ATH-A700's are good for footsteps. In an old Q3 mod, Urban Terror, I can hear people running and it isn't odd for me to simply break into a run in the opposite direction when I hear a characteristic "tink" as a grenade bounces nearby (if you can hear it, it's landed close enough to hurt you)

Lol nice

I use to play urban terror that was pretty fun. That sounds pretty good, nice to hear grenades and such in the game. With my Carcharias I can hear grenades easily in BF2 but I never really pay much attention to foot steps, I just don't think they are that audible, except my own of course. And another member here on OCN was informing me that open ears can be better for gaming then closed ear because it helps better sound stage... I knew that, but don't they lack bass compared to closed ear... hmmm what do you think?
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Still would like an answer:

What soundcard should I purchase that suits the A700?

I do not want anything overkill but I also don't want to be bottlenecked by the soundcard.
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Originally Posted by magna224;13683010 
Still would like an answer:

What soundcard should I purchase that suits the A700?

I do not want anything overkill but I also don't want to be bottlenecked by the soundcard.

Xonar DX is a great sound card for the price. highly reccomend it.
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Is the bass on the a700 going to be at least equivalent to my carcharias or even my UE SF5 EB IEMs?

Edit: was looking at this instead of a soundcard is it better? http://cgi.ebay.com/Musiland-Monitor-02-US-USB-sound-card-USB2-0-ASIO-/130372945857?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5ad547c1#ht_1907wt_901
Edited by magna224 - 5/29/11 at 11:04pm
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You will have good bass, but it will NOT be muddy like the Carcharias headset.
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