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Ok this is kinda a multi part question. I OC'ed my PC to a nice 4.5GHz OC primed it for hours and past no problems. Heres the thing I rebooted my PC and and went into bios and I hit F5 which loads optimized defaults and did F10to save and reset.

The reason why I loaded optimized defaults is because I forgot to do any benching at stocks speeds, then I was going to reOC my cpu again then run some more benching to see the benefits of my OC.

Ok heres the real deal ok remember when I rebooted and loaded optimized defaults then saved and reset ? Well when it was booting up with the optimized defaults the pc just hanged there at the black screen with the four colors that come together and right below the colors it says Starting Windows it hanged there for a couple of mins. It never did this before so I held the power button in for around 3 secs and the PC turned off.

Question #1

I'm surprised it did this, has this ever happen to you guys or heard about this after loading optimized defaults ?

Question #2

Now should I have hit the reset button instead or did I do the right thing and
hold power button so it would shutt off ?

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When I did power the PC back on it said something like PC had or encountered a problem and could not load Windows if this is cause of power interruption choose to boot up as normal. The other option was to let windows scan the PC looking problems and fix them. (I chose to let the Windows scan the PC probably bad choice). At one point it asked me if I wanted to restore the PC to a earlier point or something about restoring the PC. I said no and then it did some more scanning and came up and it said something like couldn't fix with just scanning and I wanted to send info about the problem to MS. I said no again. I don't remmeber if it shut it's self off or if it rebooted again. But the PC working fine now it did this only once this morning.

Questions #3

After reading whats I wrote in the above paragraph. What would you have chosen to do ? and do you think I'm damaged my OS ? Please tell me I got nothing to worry about.

thanks alot
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Originally Posted by Subzero11 View Post
Ok this is kinda a multi part question. I OC'ed my PC to a nice 4.5GHz OC primed it for hours and past no problems. Heres the thing I rebooted my PC and and went into bios and I hit F5 which loads optimized defaults and did F10to save and reset.

The reason why I loaded optimized defaults is because I forgot to do any benching at stocks speeds, then I was going to reOC my cpu again then run some more benching to see the benefits of my OC.

Ok heres the real deal ok remember when I rebooted and loaded optimized defaults then saved and reset ? Well when it was booting up with the optimized defaults the pc just hanged there at the black screen with the four colors that come together and right below the colors it says Starting Windows it hanged there for a couple of mins. It never did this before so I held the power button in for around 3 secs and the PC turned off.

Question #1

I'm surprised it did this, has this ever happen to you guys or heard about this after loading optimized defaults ?

Question #2

Now should I have hit the reset button instead or did I do the right thing and
hold power button so it would shutt off ?

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """

When I did power the PC back on it said something like PC had or encountered a problem and could not load Windows if this is cause of power interruption choose to boot up as normal. The other option was to let windows scan the PC looking problems and fix them. (I chose to let the Windows scan the PC probably bad choice). At one point it asked me if I wanted to restore the PC to a earlier point or something about restoring the PC. I said no and then it did some more scanning and came up and it said something like couldn't fix with just scanning and I wanted to send info about the problem to MS. I said no again. I don't remmeber if it shut it's self off or if it rebooted again. But the PC working fine now it did this only once this morning.

Questions #3

After reading whats I wrote in the above paragraph. What would you have chosen to do ? and do you think I'm damaged my OS ? Please tell me I got nothing to worry about.

thanks alot
Pressing the Reset button would be different in 2 ways:
  1. It performs the same task, but quicker (it's instant as opposed to making you wait 3-5 seconds)
  2. The system doesn't turn off, so that means you save even more time by not having to go and turn it back on

Otherwise, it's exactly the same.

So in other words: Windows would have said the same thing upon bootup if you had pressed the Reset button instead. The only difference is that you would have gotten to that point like 5-10 seconds sooner because you wouldn't have had to wait like 3-5 seconds, and then you wouldn't have had to spend time turning the system back on.

Now if this were my system, then I would have kept waiting for Windows to load instead of interrupting it because it probably would have finally booted after a couple more minutes (or perhaps even a few more seconds). However, I probably would have turned it off if I had exceeded a 5-minute wait for Windows to boot up because the days of waiting that long are long gone.

It's hard to really know why it was taking longer for Windows to boot up after loading the optimized defaults, but next time don't load them. Instead, manually set the clocks back to stock. When you load the optimized defaults, it sets almost the entire BIOS back to factory defaults.
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Ok, I'm thinking of running a error-checking scan of my HDD just to make sure. Thanks for your advice.

Do you think I could have caused damage to system files in anyway even in the slightest by interrupting the Starting Windows process by shutting the PC off ? I know I'm being paranoid probably. But this PC is new and kinda cost alot.

I have since this moring OC'ed my cpu again to 4.5GHz and primed again for a few hours and had no errors by the way.
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Originally Posted by Subzero11 View Post
Ok, I'm thinking of running a error-checking scan of my HDD just to make sure. Thanks for your advice.

Do you think I could have caused damage to system files in anyway even in the slightest by interrupting the Starting Windows process by shutting the PC off ? I know I'm being paranoid probably. But this PC is new and kinda cost alot.

I have since this moring OC'ed my cpu again to 4.5GHz and primed again for a few hours and had no errors by the way.
Nah, I think it's fine. This is something that has the potential happen to you on a regular basis while you're trying to find a stable overclock. However, I'm talking about this happening out of your control due to instability, not a long bootup again. So, it happens to everyone.

However, do not allow this to happen more than a couple of times in a row. I mean, I learned the hard way that it's very important to perform a normal Restart after this happens instead of just letting it happen over and over without ever performing a healthy Restart once I've successfully booted back into Windows. I feel the same way about a lock-up or BSOD while Windows is running normally (such as during a stress test): as soon as you get back into Windows, open the Start menu and choose Restart.

Although, I am very confident that your system is fine right now.
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it froze loading windows because it was unstable. Simple as that.

Use the fail-safe defaults in BIOS not the "optomized" default
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Actually, did it lock-up during the bootup, or did it just seem to be taking a lot longer to boot?
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it froze loading windows because it was unstable. Simple as that.

Use the fail-safe defaults in BIOS not the "optomized" default
There is no fail safe in the P8P67 mobo, only optomized. Plus There was no OC it was only defaults settings. Thats what surprise me when it kept hanging there at that screen, with default settings.
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Did it lock-up during the bootup, or did it just seem to be taking a lot longer to boot?
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Did it lock-up during the bootup, or did it just seem to be taking a lot longer to boot?
I think it's it was locked up, if I thought it was still working or if I would of heard the HDD making noises I would havee let it go a longer. Nothing was moving on the screen so I assume it was locked up.


PS. This is a unrelated question when I'm done using the PC and I want to shut it off for the night. This is what I been doing I go to start then I click shut down while the PC is in process of shutting off I turn off the monitor. Now should I wait shutting off the monitor and let the PC shut off first ? or does it matter ? thanks
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I think it's it was locked up, if I thought it was still working or if I would of heard the HDD making noises I would havee let it go a longer. Nothing was moving on the screen so I assume it was locked up.
So are you saying that the animation was completely motionless? It's supposed to keep moving just a little bit. That's all I am wondering.

What I mean is that if it truly locked up (if that animation was completely motionless), then you really had no choice but to do what you did.


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PS. This is a unrelated question when I'm done using the PC and I want to shut it off for the night. This is what I been doing I go to start then I click shut down while the PC is in process of shutting off I turn off the monitor. Now should I wait shutting off the monitor and let the PC shut off first ? or does it matter ? thanks
Nah, it doesn't matter because it's just a monitor. The computer doesn't depend on it; it's a device that's strictly for the user's benefit. I mean if the computer were a conscious being, then it would say that it doesn't care whether or not the monitor is on because it always knows what its doing regardless of whether or not you can see it. To see what I mean, turn your monitor off right now, and then turn it back on.
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