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This isn't my first attempt to OC my rig. When I first put it together in 2007 I joined this Overclock.net and tried but to no avail. Here I am 4 years down the road and am on the verge of upgrading my processor to a quad core. However, I'm a second year medical student and lets just say money is hard to come by. So I decided to re-try at OC my build and I spent a few $ of loan money on some cooling upgrades, etc. After spending ~6 hours of my free Saturday sifting through this site and many others and trying several attempts in bios, I'm frustrated.

I'm not one to give up or ask for help because I know the typical responses I can expect, but I don't have the time or energy to trial and error my way through this. My first attempt was the nearest to working, so here we go. Any help would greatly be appreciated and btw my goal is a stable 3GHz. Not asking too much!

First set CPU ratio to 11X, Host clock control enabled, CPU host freq: 270, PCI E set to 100, CIA2 disabled, Performance enhance: standard, System memory: 2.5 <- this was the closest I could get my memory to the stock 800 -> default memory = 800, mine=775, system voltage set to auto. I have no idea what I'm doing voltage wise. My default voltage on this chip is 1.23V. I left it to auto and ran Orthos. It was stable for a whopping 5 mins before I stopped Orthos cause my temp was approaching 75C.

I further tried several times to mess around with the voltages and just kept making things worse. Any help with a safe voltage with my set-up would be greatly appreciated.
Also I do not know if I have optimized my memory correctly. I set it as close to the default of 800 as I could in bios and also tweaked the DDR2 voltage to +.1. The stock for my memory is 1.8-2.0v.

Can I get away with just setting my CPU voltage control to auto and tweaking my FSB and Multiplier until I get a stable load out with reasonable temps?

Thanks in advance for your help and I again apologize for giving in and posting another thread topic on OCing an E4500 but I'm at my wits end and just don't know what else to do.

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With something like this, NEVER do auto voltages. More often than not the board will greatly overvolt the chip far beyond what is required for that specific clock speed, and you end up doing little more than overheating and degrading your processor.

How i do it is when i get into bios, i first pick an overclocking target, loosen all timings, set all dividers to the lowest available setting, and jack up the voltages manually. For my processor, i would start out with 1.3v and begin cranking the fsb upwards until the target is reached, in my case, 3.66ghz. Once i have achieved that and it successfully POSTs, i go back into bios and begin lowering voltages and tightening timings, rebooting every time i make a fairly significant change to ensure it would restart. Once that is done, i boot into the OS and begin running my stress tests to ensure the OC is stable. If not, back into bios for a slight voltage boost.
You will end up going back and forth a few times before it becomes stable.

Once it passes a short term run, run either Intel Burn Test (20 runs using at least 2GB of ram) or folding@home (24hrs, its very sensitive to unstable hardware and will detect it even if other programs say its clean) for a final stability check. If it passes that, congrats, you are set.
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All right I am happy (exuberant) to report that after spending countless hours I have what I think is a successful OC. I like to consider myself having a reasonable amount of knowledge when it comes to computers but good gracious this has been incredibly frustrating. It has to be the processor, I know I can’t be screwing this up as bad as it seems.

Anyway, I have attached the CPU-z validation .txt and the IBT burnlog. I ran the burn log on custom with 2000mb and 5 runs. The max temp reached was 65C but my room right now is about 27C.... Please let me know what the next step is in making sure this thing is completely stable. I mean it’s not even a 15% OC (2.2-2.5GHz), I have no idea what the problem was, but surely I can get more out of this processor. What do you guys think?

Also, if someone could explain to me how the memory multiplier and timings work I would really appreciate it. Is it any benefit to just OC my CPU and leave the RAM at stock. Right now I have my multiplier set up to leave the frequency at 733Mhz which is under the default 800Mhz. I dunno if that's ok or what. The timings I left alone. I also set the PCIE to 100, which I think is pretty standard, right?

I had to set “FSB OverVoltage Control†to +0.1 in bios to finally get thing to pass IBT. I upped my voltage a mere .001v and it seemed to lock it in.

Thanks in advance

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Send me the pictures of the important sections of the bios.
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Send me the pictures of the important sections of the bios.
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