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Originally Posted by XNoob;13676860 
I am not trolling I just noticed this had some new posts and page 2 had some leaning toward the 960 side. So IDK. I am far better at trolling if that was my intent. I haven't started any fan wars or anything...cool.gif I mean I am lookingg for a comparison including stability, performance at similar clocks, and what you really gain with 2nd gen other than a smaller die, less heat from the wattage...but what about performance? I haven't seen half the instability threads with the 1st gen chips. And the benchs are close when it's clock for clock. With the hyper-threading doing some help some hurt depending on game or use. I just don't like jumping on trends for no reason.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/3

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20
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Originally Posted by Lou3824;13676973 
Well, instead of trying to split hairs, why don't you state what you are actually going to use the computer for mostly and you will get responses that are more tailored to your needs. So far, this thread has generally been rather generic and people are just stating their opinions on which CPU they like better. I am a fan of both the 2500K and the 2600K, but I do understand that some of the 9XX series i-7's can be the better way to go, but it depends entirely on what you are using the rig for. As a general rule, for what most average users do with their computers, the 2500K is the way to go right now and its really not even close (bang for our buck). You want to make a case for 1366, then specifically state what you are doing and you could see very different responses here. Despite fanboyism, most people on this site will be very honest and helpful when given a specific set of parameters.

The OP stated that he will mainly use his rig for gaming to start with, and his budget is $900-$1000. If he went 1336, every other component in his rig would suffer due to the costs.
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Well, instead of trying to split hairs, why don't you state what you are actually going to use the computer for mostly and you will get responses that are more tailored to your needs. So far, this thread has generally been rather generic and people are just stating their opinions on which CPU they like better. I am a fan of both the 2500K and the 2600K, but I do understand that some of the 9XX series i-7's can be the better way to go, but it depends entirely on what you are using the rig for. As a general rule, for what most average users do with their computers, the 2500K is the way to go right now and its really not even close (bang for our buck). You want to make a case for 1366, then specifically state what you are doing and you could see very different responses here. Despite fanboyism, most people on this site will be very honest and helpful when given a specific set of parameters.
Ok as I did state this at bottom of page 1 but for now a gaming rig later more for CAD.
Also I do plan to upgrade but for now my rig plan:

Intel Core i5-2500K
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but I also like the thought of that 960 with a g1 guerrilla

ANYWHO...I think for now I am going i5 2500k upgrading later to i7 2600k. =). Unless some1 comes and drops this thread on it's head . Thanks to everyone so far and +repped many of you =).

Lingering thoughts on i7 960: I could get a better board. Out the box (before upgrades) i7 960 still has the edge on the i5 2500k as far as hyperthreading and marginally better L3. Also better boards in my price range there. *onboard audio options...*
Edited by XNoob - 5/29/11 at 10:28am
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I5 2500k @ 4.8+ will slaughter a i7 960. I've had i7 920's, Phenom x6, Phenom x4, i5 750, q6600, e8400, e5200 and none compare to the i5 2500k when gaming. Go i5 2500k or since you plan on cad, go 2600k instead of buying one now and the other later.
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USUALLY? lol, have not seen one i5 2500k that could not hit atleast 4.3ghz(most hit 4.5-5.0), hardly ever see i6 960's running 4.3+ and that in itself is a feat.
I just said usually to protect myself from the trolls that will post a golden i7 against the worst 2500k
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We bought a Dell system for someone at my workplace which has the new 2600K CPU in it. They work on mahoosive and complex Excel spreadsheets. The Core2Duo machines were struggling and often crashing when faced with crazy Excel calculations.

This new 2600K machine is a beast, even at stock (Dell of course). It does these same calculations in less than 2 minutes, which previously took 20 minutes+ on the old C2D machines (provided it didn't crash and burn!)

The 2500K, or the 2600K if you really want the best, are awesome awesome awesome.

The Bloomfield stuff is starting to look a bit old now, so either go with Sandy Bridge or wait and see what Bulldozer has to offer.
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Alright it's official I am going 2500k/2600k. Will try working with 2600k builds today to see if I can swing it. But this has been a very valuable board to me. Thank you all !

Final thoughts: no need to keep this going but if anyone has thoughts on my build or what not feel free to PM me . Kthxbye.

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I5 2500k @ 4.8+
I love how people say that like its a given.

The 2500k setup for the same price, gives you no better fps in games, less memory bandwidth/slots less pcie bandwidth and fewer sata ports.

I'd trade my 2500k+p8p67deluxe straight-up for a 960+ud3r any day.
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I love how people say that like its a given.

The 2500k setup for the same price, gives you no better fps in games, less memory bandwidth/slots less pcie bandwidth and fewer sata ports.

I'd trade my 2500k+p8p67deluxe straight-up for a 960+ud3r any day.
4.5 is pretty much a given. And if you can't reach above that 90% of the time its user error or a cooling problem. A 960 @ 3.6 is average Overclock while a 2500k at 4.5 is average. At those speeds the 2500k stomps all over the 960. Now compare top overclocks, 960 @4.2 & 2500k at 5.1 and watch the 960 lag behind. I'm not talking out my ass, I've had dam near golden 920's sitting at 4.21 and 4.33 and my i5 2500k only 4.7 wipes em...now clock it to 5.0+(which I can with my chip and cooling) and its like comparing apples to oranges.
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if you already own 1366 its not worth the investment, however if starting fresh then go for Sandybridge
    
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to put a new system i just need new MB and CPU
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