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Overclocking results on water and stock aircooling- MSI TFIII 6950


3d'11 @ 1050mhz core / 1370mhz mem
post #22 of 36
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Originally Posted by Dr.GumbyM.D. View Post
The GPU is the same (though the 6950 may have been binned lower, but they seem to be hitting 6970 speeds with no problem), the RAM is definitely cheaper RAM (different RAM chips, 5ghz instead of 5.5ghz or whatever), but it's still fast, and usually overclocks to 6970 specs (speed wise, timings who knows, voltage I can't say), the shaders can be unlocked in most 6950s to the same quantity as 6970. I believe the GPU is volted to 1.175 stock on the 6970 instead of 1.100 on the 6950, but I only own two 6950s, no 6970 for me.

I've unlocked and overclocked my two 6950s, put them under water, and they run fast, cool, and happy, for a lot less than 6970s would have cost me in the same setup. The price difference between the 6950s and 6970s offset the cost of watercooling the 6950s.
Like I said, why is anyone claiming that it's pointless to unlock the shaders and that it'll "only get 1 more fps"?
post #23 of 36
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Like I said, why is anyone claiming that it's pointless to unlock the shaders and that it'll "only get 1 more fps"?
And, how many 6950's do you own to backup your statement?

lol there is 1,2 fps difference from unlocked shaders, which is nice sure, but the way everyone is goin round screaming about it, you'd swear you got 10-20% more performance or somethin'
post #24 of 36
As far as I know Twin Frozr III overclocks better thanc any other (yeah, yeah I know DCII fanboys overclocks the same way) even if You can't unlock shaders. So You can be above 6970 performance or above without unlocking shaders
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sp4wners, little off topic but how does one get a Nvidia on a 6950 system to specificly do PhysX? Do you need both drivers? I ask because I have a GTX 465 en route and planned on folding 24/7 in #2 PC but... Yeah... How can I utilize it with my single 6950 2gb?
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post #26 of 36
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And, how many 6950's do you own to backup your statement?

lol there is 1,2 fps difference from unlocked shaders,
So you're saying there's only 1-2 fps difference between the 6950 and 6970 at equal clocks? You'd be sorely mistaken.
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So you're saying there's only 1-2 fps difference between the 6950 and 6970 at equal clocks? You'd be sorely mistaken.
No, theres about 7-9 fps difference on average between the 6950/70 lol -> link

This is uncluding, Shaders, Memory, and clock speeds.
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Originally Posted by sp4wners View Post
As far as I know Twin Frozr III overclocks better thanc any other (yeah, yeah I know DCII fanboys overclocks the same way) even if You can't unlock shaders. So You can be above 6970 performance or above without unlocking shaders
I believe there's a thread in the amd/ati forum about whether people have been able to overclock more on aftermarket boards, and as far as the responses I've seen, it seems like it's a crapshoot, aftermarket, OEM, or otherwise as to what overclocks and what doesn't. The Frozr line have better cooling, sure, but that doesn't necessarily lead to better overclocks 100% of the time. I just cannot get my 2600k to go over 4.8 even if I feed it like 1.4v and do all of the voltage adjustments recommended by Asus in the HardOCP Asus P67 overclocking guide, even with extensive watercooling, the chip just crashes even without overheating.


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And, how many 6950's do you own to backup your statement?

lol there is 1,2 fps difference from unlocked shaders, which is nice sure, but the way everyone is goin round screaming about it, you'd swear you got 10-20% more performance or somethin'
It's not the fact that it's the 1-2fps that gets people excited, it's that the unlocked shaders are one of the limitations between the 6950 and 6970, and with breaking it down, you're closer to a 6970 without paying for it. The overclocking is generally a given considering the great overclocking headroom that recent graphics cards have had, so the shaders was something of a concern to people, though yes, it really doesn't make that much of a difference.
post #29 of 36
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No, theres about 7-9 fps difference on average between the 6950/70 lol -> link

This is uncluding, Shaders, Memory, and clock speeds.
No... You said:
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Actually, there is 1fps difference between the fully unlocked with OC, and regular OC
The fact is: unlocking the 6950 turns it into a 6970 at equal clocks. So I don't understand why anyone would try and recommend NOT unlocking the shaders in the 6950. There's no reason NOT to actually.
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Originally Posted by PoopaScoopa View Post
No... You said:


The fact is: unlocking the 6950 turns it into a 6970 at equal clocks. So I don't understand why anyone would try and recommend NOT unlocking the shaders in the 6950. There's no reason NOT to actually.
You conveniently left out the rest of that post ..

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Actually, there is 1fps difference between the fully unlocked with OC, and regular OC there according to those random benchmark scores provided, assuming they're legit lol. I concur, generally speaking, bit of a waste? lol Considering you can brick your card and/or shorten its lifespan.
Also, read what i said in the last post, the total fps difference was including the shaders, memory, and clock difference between them, so if you factor out just the shader difference, then ..yeah, you get about 1,2 fps lol give up man.
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