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Originally Posted by Heavy MG View Post
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Sure your CPU may work at 1.7V now,but anywhere from a month to a year from now,you'll see the processor start to degrade,and it will not be stable at all,it may even damage the chip to the point of where you have to add voltage just to run factory default. AMD's max spec is 1.5V on Athlon II and Phenom II for a reason.
I'm not making this stuff up.

This is my attempt:
Athlon II + dry ice= 4.06ghz


I could do 3.5 on air for crying out loud.

Phenom's have significantly more overclocking headroom, hence the reason i went and bought a 555 after being terribly unsuccessful with the 240.
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post #32 of 58
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Ummmm, you remember when you posted:



You jab, but can't take a counter jab?

You guys talked me out of it. I'll have to wait for BD to come out. Then I will conduct my experiment. That way, as beers mentioned, I can immediately replace my dead CPU if the worst happens.
Worst happens you are thinking that you will be able to pump 1.7v through a 32nm CPU( on Air)....lol.
The thing that you'll be doing is paying another $300+ dollars to replace that BD, probably in all of 2 minutes.

Look mate it's evident that you have no realistic clue on how to overclock at all period. So go and do a bit of real research, it almost sounds like you got your information from 4chan.

Some of the finest overclockers are telling you to not do it, people that would have far.far.far.far more experience than me, and I have been overclocking for a while and you just brush it off as nonsense or as we don't know what we are talking about.
Edited by smash_mouth01 - 5/29/11 at 2:35am
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If you wanted a budget gamer you should have grabbed something like the Athlon II x2 250, stock @3Gh, OC to 4Ghz and above and in most games perform better than anything else you'll buy new for less than $60.
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1.7V wont instantly fry the chip, but it wont last more than a week or two at best. The mosfets might still not be able to take it, but because of all the ASUS protection stuff they will just throttle down before anything bad will happen.

You seriously need Dry ice or LN2 for voltages like those.
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but because of all the ASUS protection stuff they will just throttle down before anything bad will happen.
Very true. You have to have fans on your VRM to prevent "throttling" on these boards. I have one behind the board, and if I was going big i would use one on top as well. These fans being aimed at the VRM cooling.
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As far as I'm concerned you did get a golden chip...mine can only do 3.5GHz. I've tried up to 1.55V to get it higher with no success. 3.85GHz is higher than most get on these chips, around 3.5-3.7GHz. I can't really complain for only $110 for the chip and mobo though! (Micro Center combo deals ftw!)
     
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Did you dry ice the VRM's somehow ?
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Did you dry ice the VRM's somehow ?
Mini pots for each VRM?

Really all you need is at least 8 quality VRM's and fans pointed at them for high voltages.
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Mini pots for each VRM?

Really all you need is at least 8 quality VRM's and fans pointed at them for high voltages.
I noticed some aftermarket cpu coolers have a side fan which could be put on the side and would be blowing directly on the VRM heatsinks on some motherboards, wondering if that would be a bad idea since the heat from the CPU's heatsink would be coming along for the ride.
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Obvious troll. Or maybe yet another person who thinks he know what he's talking about, but is clueless. "water cooled mosfets" wth? Maybe he's OCing is PC outdoors in Death Valley.
His reference to watercooled MOSFETs is of course to keep those from burning up.
1.7v's through the power circuit to the CPU via the MOSFET's is alot of voltage and the MOSFETs will get warm or even hot.

As for doing it, you can find a cooling block for just that at Newegg, here's a link to one as an example:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835708022

NOW.... I'm wondering if the chip you have is indeed a "True" Phenom II chip or not. Many folks just don't realize these newer PHII and Athlon chips are temp sensitive.
Simply throwing the voltage way up can work against what you're trying to do as I've discovered with my 555 and 720 chips. Core temps can and will spike under load (Such as booting the OS) if you push it too hard. Watercooling, DICE or even better cooling can help to offset these spikes but as we all know there is a point of diminishing returns.
I've discovered with my 720BE as an example that it really doesn't like voltages much over 1.47v's on air and trying to go higher will result in higher temps AND a lower bootable clockspeed too.
On water it's much better but of course there's still a limit, about 1.57v's with some gains being made.

This same chip can and will bootup with as little as 1.44v's while going over 4.0 (4013MHz) at the same time too - Stable (So far).
Of course there are other factors that contribute to this and all of my settings have to be on target to do it.

What I'm getting at is maybe you're giving it too much voltage and you have a temp spike problem going on when trying to bootup, that will make it flake out everytime. Related to the above, I've seen my chips boot into the OS sometimes with a lower voltage than where it had been crashing before at the same speed settings indicating such a temp spiking problem.

Or maybe you just have a crappy chip.
Edited by Kryton - 5/29/11 at 6:21am
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