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Hi everyone

I have been using windows 7 Professional 64 bit for about a year now, with a fresh install some time half way when i got stuck in a stupid loop, and since then i haven't had a problem. however over the past say 3 months, i have been running out of RAM. i mean seriously.. i used to be fine running 2GB of RAM on my 32 bit copy of windows XP and i did A LOT of stuff on it. now 4GB is an easy filler. I managed to max it out while doing my homework [like 14 tabs of Google chrome, 2 windows of Microsoft word 2007, and 2 photoshop 64x tabs]0.o...

At first i thought it was some malware, so i did a Virus scan with AVG 2011, then i decided to go check for desktop hijackers, and found nothing. i even disabled my second monitor and that didnt reduce my RAM usage. right now im using about 2.15GB of RAM, after a restart, i get about 1.6GB of RAM used, and thats before the drivers for my video card kick in and MSN is logged in.

i disabled the Page file, because i dont want the data being written to my hard drive, so it wont relocate, however im playing a FREE FPS game, like Combat arms, and im maxing my memory, I used to be able to play Crysis and not max it out, and now i cant start the dam level without maxing out my RAM... is it time to get an 8GB set of G.Skill snipers? or is there something wrong here?

[EDIT]

So delving deeper, Svhost.exe is taking up the most RAM of all, 144,888K and specifically its the one for windows aero, the one that makes everything translucent and nice =P, i never had a problem with it b4, but now its a problem =/ ah yeh and this started maybe about 2 weeks after i disabled page file, and now its getting Bad =/ maybe its time to switch to linux =P
Edited by Pentium4 531 overclocker - 5/28/11 at 10:01pm
    
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Are you saying that you used to be able to play Crysis with this system with this installation of Windows 7 without maxing out the memory, but now you can't?

If so, then getting more memory isn't the solution. Instead, solving this problem is the solution. Unfortunately, I don't know what that solution would be. Personally, I would probably give up by this point and just format and start over.
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Are you saying that you used to be able to play Crysis with this system with this installation of Windows 7 without maxing out the memory, but now you can't?

If so, then getting more memory isn't the solution. Instead, solving this problem is the solution. Unfortunately, I don't know what that solution would be. Personally, I would probably give up by this point and just format and start over.
but i hate reinstalling >=[ do u know how long it takes to download GTA 4 from steam ? not to mention i already maxed out my download for the month. i would have been ok with it b4, but i dont like taking the easy way out.. i need to find the solution... there has to be a missing element here.. something i overlooked.
    
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but i hate reinstalling >=[ do u know how long it takes to download GTA 4 from steam ? not to mention i already maxed out my download for the month. i would have been ok with it b4, but i dont like taking the easy way out.. i need to find the solution... there has to be a missing element here.. something i overlooked.
There's always Steam Mover.

However, I still think that the solution is to find the solution instead of just adding more memory.

So I'm still wondering: are you saying that you were able to play Crysis on this system with this installation of Windows 7 before without maxing out the memory, but now you can't?
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Add a page file.
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There's always Steam Mover.

However, I still think that the solution is to find the solution instead of just adding more memory.

So I'm still wondering: are you saying that you were able to play Crysis on this system with this installation of Windows 7 before without maxing out the memory, but now you can't?
yeh, i used to be able to max out crysis with this installation while i was benching some overlclocks i had, [yep it was stable ] and the only time i maxed out was on the final mission where your on the cruiser with like a gajillion aliens spitting at you from the sky >.< but i didnt get any memory issues then cuz i had pagefile on, so it just lost frame rates dramatically, but i wasnt about to blow another 50 bucks when i just spent 1600 dollars only a few months ago... so i decided to restart and play the mission alone instead of in sequence with the rest,and it worked =P

in my understanding, pagefile is just like dedicating space on your hard drive to act like RAM, but how come when i enable it, i have pagefile on my HDD even when i have RAM to spare?

i disabled as many unnecessary services as i could, [aero is necessary XD] and im at a 1.6GB right now, but after a bit o time on the machine i can tell you now its gunna take on another 200Mb soon
Edited by Pentium4 531 overclocker - 5/29/11 at 9:15am
    
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Add a page file.
i was thinking about it... but i was like naw.... if i really do need more RAM then i should get some.. but something tells me that i dont, and theres a problem somewhere, and i wont give up 50 bucks that easily...
    
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Page file is a space holder for things not used is RAM immediately. Page file is slower than RAM since the page file is on a slower hard drive/ssd. However, page file allows more free ram to be used by applications.

If you run without a page file, you may run into a situation where you run out of free ram. Then you will likely crash.

More "real" RAM is better and faster, but a page file helps when in situations where you are running out of free RAM.
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Page file is a space holder for things not used is RAM immediately. Page file is slower than RAM since the page file is on a slower hard drive/ssd. However, page file allows more free ram to be used by applications.

If you run without a page file, you may run into a situation where you run out of free ram. Then you will likely crash.

More "real" RAM is better and faster, but a page file helps when in situations where you are running out of free RAM.
how much space does pagefile typically save?
    
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how much space does pagefile typically save?
It depends upon what applications you run on your computer. If you run programs like Photoshop, page file will likely be used a lot. If you run Word and WinAmp, page file will likely not be used that much.
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