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Well how can you tell for sure if EVERY board has bad power phases? Does msi not learn from their mistakes? Does the board i linked to have those bad power phases? I'm hearing people who say they've had good experiences with the boards, even up to 4.8ghz with a 2600k, but then i hear people saying stay away just because of MSI's past mistakes.
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As a GD55 owner, I wouldn't recommend it for an overclocker. If you're into overclocking you'll want to go ASUS. The P67 MSI boards have a Vcore issue that makes the Vcore increase 0.04 V under load. There is no way to turn LLC off and it's causing lockups at idle.

With a good CPU, you'll easily hit 5+ GHz (I've been to 5.2 GHz), but the Vcore will be a limiting factor and one that wouldn't be there with an ASUS or Gigabyte board. MSI make nice boards, but they're not as good as the competition.
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I don't understand why that biostart motherboard has 2 8 pin power connectors, do i need both filled to get the mobo running as well as the 24 pin?
You only need one plugged in to run it. Two is for some hardcore LN2 sessions. It's basically meant to be a no frills enthusiast board, closest thing to DFI there is now


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Well how can you tell for sure if EVERY board has bad power phases? Does msi not learn from their mistakes? Does the board i linked to have those bad power phases? I'm hearing people who say they've had good experiences with the boards, even up to 4.8ghz with a 2600k, but then i hear people saying stay away just because of MSI's past mistakes.
It's improved from the past 4+1 phase designs. You should be fine for moderate overclocking, I wouldn't attempt to run 5ghz+ on it for 24/7 use though.
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You only need one plugged in to run it. Two is for some hardcore LN2 sessions. It's basically meant to be a no frills enthusiast board, closest thing to DFI there is now




It's improved from the past 4+1 phase designs. You should be fine for moderate overclocking, I wouldn't attempt to run 5ghz+ on it for 24/7 use though.
+ rep thanks, to be safe, i'll go with the biostar board , but i'm curious what are ln2 sessions
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I owned a gd55, 5.4 was bench stable without a problem.

When I had it, they were the board to have for benching since they tolerated higher blk a bit better. That could have changed by now though.
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+ rep thanks, to be safe, i'll go with the biostar board , but i'm curious what are ln2 sessions
Liquid nitrogen.

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Wow, that's awesome lol, but don't think I'll be able to try that out right now, good to hear it has the power for that though.....one thing I"m unsure of, someone told me that if i wanted to, plugging in the second 8 pin power connector acts as a substitute for plugging in 2 6 pin power connectors in to a gpu? This sounds kinda out there, but is it even remotely true?
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Wow, that's awesome lol, but don't think I'll be able to try that out right now, good to hear it has the power for that though.....one thing I"m unsure of, someone told me that if i wanted to, plugging in the second 8 pin power connector acts as a substitute for plugging in 2 6 pin power connectors in to a gpu? This sounds kinda out there, but is it even remotely true?
It does not act as a substitute for plugging in the GPU power connectors. I think what he was thinking of: some boards have extra power connectors that provide extra power to the PCI-E lanes (but you still need to plugin all 6 pin connectors on the card, sometimes cards have 8 pin too which must be plugged in.) Usually these take the form of molex or floppy connectors that you hook up. However, the Biostar does not do that. The extra 8 pin is for delivering CPU power. Just using one is fine though. Plugging in two is totally unnecessary for air or water usage, and only beneficial if using LN2/Liquid Helium or whatever form of super extreme cooling.
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