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Originally Posted by JohnDProb;13682839 
something really tells me that those graphs are off

A few billion at least tongue.gif

If steam ever releases how much they make it will probably make that graph inversed.
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Originally Posted by Alatar;13682876 
Users online peak at around 3 million every day according to steam. So there are a lot more than 400 000 accounts.

Also, think of the ratio of pirated PC games to Pirated xbox/ps3 games. I bet there is almost 100 fold more pirated PC games than console. Just think of all of the possible revenue from that.
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Originally Posted by noak;13682946 
Also, think of the ratio of pirated PC games to Pirated xbox/ps3 games. I bet there is almost 100 fold more pirated PC games than console. Just think of all of the possible revenue from that.

No way to prove it so talking about it is trivial. Piracy is also been linked to boost sales of some games as well so it can't always be seen a negative light (as much as everyone would seemingly like to).
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Piracy is not a problem it can be completely squashed, if companies get serious about it.
They all know who is downloading torrents, ISP's are tracking everything.
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Blasphemy.
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I think in the future we will see a merge between consoles and pc's. In the end there will be one unified device that does everything.
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post #47 of 52
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Are you still interested in gaming on something that can't instantly connect you to all your friends and spam them with CityVille notifications until they personally notify you about the live spiders they're pouring all over your face?
YES! FOR GOD'S SAKE YES!


I do not want any of that crap on my magical entertainment box of errors. All I ask for when I buy a console is turn on --> insert game --> Do donuts. Oh, and some reliability, it needs to still work when it's generation is nearing an end.
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post #48 of 52
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Originally Posted by VulcanDragon;13680926 
Look through any PC gaming forum and you will inevitably find a fair number of people complaining about how PC games are being "dumbed down" for the console crowd. What you should take away from that observation are two things:

1. Those people are the hot rodders, that have very nice PCs and want (obviously) games that can take advantage of their expensive investment. The trouble is that game developers cannot focus on a niche crowd, they have to expend their expensive resources satisfying the largest audience. Which leads to #2...

As Vhati said, I am mostly talking about game difficulty. I am not one for graphics despite my rig. You will find me often playing games like System Shock 2, Baldur's Gate and the like. (Which pisses off my friends as they consider it a waste of a rig tongue.gif)

Nowadays, even the giants of RPG are trying to "mainstream" their games into what could only be described as CoD clones, simply to appeal to the average joe.
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2. Because developers aren't generally coding for the bleeding edge capabilites of $600 cards, PC games are already capable of being played on the newest laptops with decent settings. Note that I did not say "highest" settings, which is where all of us want to live...I said "decent" settings. The gaming capabilities of a Sandy Bridge laptop are impressive when you compare to what a laptop could do 10, or even 5, years ago. Extrapolate another 10 years from now. The raw power in a 2021-era "laptop" (or whatever form factor is dominant in 10 years) will provide exceptional gaming capabilities. Sure, we die-hards may complain that it's not in 8000x4500 resolution, or doesn't use super tessefractialationary hypergons, or volumasstric smoke simulation, or whatever the largely pointless graphics issue rules the day that year. But 99.9% of the world will not care...they will happily be playing games that look pretty frickin sweet on their commodity latop/tablet/whatever.

I agree with that. A friend of mine only uses laptops. In the past he would not had been able to play a lot of games on them. However his newest laptop which cost around the same price of my rig is easily able to play Crysis, Starcraft 2, etc... on medium settings.
But you never know how great future graphics will look like. The rift between PC graphics and laptop/consoles might drift back apart to what it once was, maybe even more, to a certain degree that even the mainstream joe would want the things that you speak of. It happened with the internet and gaming, it could happen with the graphics as well.

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I do truly believe the PC era is in its twilight. It has a while to go yet, and it's not like something good is just going to be taken away from us overnight. It will be gradually replaced by other form factors, and after a while people will forget that we even used to be bound to a "desktop PC". It's not crazy. Think telephone booths. These things were just always there...it was simply impossible that they would not be there...until they weren't. (I'll bet there are a lot of you young'uns on these forums that have never actually even seen a telephone booth!)

I see it backwards. The cellphone was the elitist tool (PC), costing $4k each when it first started. The telephones booths(consoles) were the mainstream, cheap and everyone used them. However as time progressed, having a cellphone turned from a luxury to a necessity. This could very well be the case with the PC. (I'm not old enough to remember what high-end PCs cost back in the day, but I speculate they were much more expensive than today's high-end PCs?)

But then again, it could be as you say, that the telephone booths represent PCs, and tablets represent cellphones.

PS: I just want to say I regret starting that discussion with you as your debating skills and vocabulary far exceed mine tongue.gif
Edited by __Pat__ - 5/30/11 at 1:35am
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post #49 of 52
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Originally Posted by __Pat__;13684288 
PS: I just want to say I regret starting that discussion with you as your debating skills and vocabulary far exceed mine tongue.gif

If we take nothing else from this thread, let it be known that Vulcan has more skillz than us smile.gif
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Originally Posted by petran79;13676527 
I cant believe people type still with the joystick on consoles

Alot of people don't, at least not on Xbox 360. They use a USB keyboard or the chatpad. I know most people on my friends list use one of these two methods.

I forsee next generation taking better advantage of keyboard and mouse capability, more than likely to draw in the PC gaming crowd. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of this happening.

Fixed hardware equals better optimisation. Fixed periphiral support equals more happy gamers and maybe more complexity in some games like RTS's and MMO's.

The only thing that may hold consoles back is the aging hardware issue but let's be honest consoles are doing bloody well despite the age of their hardware thanks to the ability to optimise for the fixed hardware that works much more effieciently for its purpose.

Remember when the Xbox was at the end of its lifecycle and everyone thought there was nothing more any developer could really get out of it? Then Ubisoft delivered Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory and pretty much wowed everyone. I'm willing to bet developers could have gotten more out of the system if they wanted to, and I'm willing to bet that today developers could get more out of the current systems if they really want to. I think it's more about the toolkits, and engines, they have to create games rather than the hardware they're running on (though naturally all hardware has its limits, I just don't think they've reached it yet).

Then throw in the social networking and multi media aspects of future consoles and you'll find that they will become even more commonplace in the home than they already are.

Consoles aren't going anywhere.
Edited by Lifeshield - 5/30/11 at 7:52am
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