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Originally Posted by Vhati;13681660 
people complaining about dumbed down games, arent talking about graphics. They are talking about gameplay.

I see both arguments. The most common gameplay complaint I see is actually about the controller (joypad vs. keyboard+mouse), not the game itself.

But I do see graphics discussions too. Think back to the last-gen PS2/XBox era, there were lots of discussions and complaints about the games ported to consoles that just sucked because they had to sacrifice too much of the visualizations to fit on the underpowered hardware.

Now I do believe you see less of these complaints with the current-gen systems because the current crop of consoles can put out some pretty great images. But that sort of underlines my point: gamers aren't noticing the differences between hardware platforms as much as they used to because even the weak platforms are pretty darn powerful.
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Kinda like how bioware games are a mockery of their early games. Or how you cant find an RPG that doesnt have ! over NPC heads, or tell you every step of every quest.

I used to hate that too, since I'm obviously old...er, I mean old-school. tongue.gif But over time, I've come to recognize that these are actually improvements to the game design. Games are supposed to be fun first and foremost, so providing visual cues to keep the player from becoming totally lost is not necessarily a bad thing. The floating "!" is only one way to do that, and maybe not the best way...but you get my point, helping the player understand what he is supposed to do is actually good design.
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Originally Posted by __Pat__;13684288 
As Vhati said, I am mostly talking about game difficulty. I am not one for graphics despite my rig. You will find me often playing games like System Shock 2, Baldur's Gate and the like. (Which pisses off my friends as they consider it a waste of a rig tongue.gif)

Playing SS2 and BG is never a waste of a rig! I actually need to fire up Planescape: Torment myself, it's the oldest game on my "Why haven't I played this yet" list.
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But you never know how great future graphics will look like. The rift between PC graphics and laptop/consoles might drift back apart to what it once was, maybe even more, to a certain degree that even the mainstream joe would want the things that you speak of. It happened with the internet and gaming, it could happen with the graphics as well.

It could happen, sure. But I suspect that it won't happen only because we have reached a point that most gamers are largely satisfied with the graphics they are seeing. So the economics of reaching for that next incremental graphical tweak aren't there...it won't provide the return in increased sales. People just aren't likely to notice slightly better fog or shadows.

So if there is some "next big thing" that requires the power of a PC, I think it will be a breakthrough in some new area. Maybe real physics, or real AI. Something hard for us to predict.
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(I'm not old enough to remember what high-end PCs cost back in the day, but I speculate they were much more expensive than today's high-end PCs?)

My old Apple IIe apparently retailed for $1298, which is $4585 in today's money. (All of this according to Google searching.)
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PS: I just want to say I regret starting that discussion with you as your debating skills and vocabulary far exceed mine tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by Mootsfox;13684571 
If we take nothing else from this thread, let it be known that Vulcan has more skillz than us smile.gif

Aw, shucks...now I'm blushing! wubsmiley.gif
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Yes, electronic devices were much more expensive in the 80s. A pc cost half the price of a car, having 1/1000000 of the processing power of todays pcs.
Though in the end that did not matter since the applications were more light too. Same with games, some of which were difficult enough, both on pc , arcades and consoles.
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