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Seasonic has fanless PSUs. Maybe worth looking at. If you're not gunna use Z68 features go for P67.
Alot of rendering apps will benefit from 8 threads. Your call.
Some good Z68 boards:
ASUS z68-V Pro
ASRock Extreme4 Z68
Which are fanless?
Is it worth €70 to render a few videos, though?
Only reason I wanted a Z68 is because of onboard graphics, V pro doesn't have onboard.
I might just go with P67 UD4

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If you are rendering (which let me say I know very little about) then I believe that is one of the few workloads that the extra money for the 2600k would actually be well spent. For a cheaper GPU I would highly recommend this 460 1Gb from Amazon, it's $160 after rebate and is factory overclocked to the same speed as most 560 non ti's. If you are looking for a cheaper but still quality PSU option I would recommend thinking about all your needs/wants out of a PSU and then asking the PSU section, we have quite the collection of knowledgeable people there. Hope this helps (I think that 460 is a very good card in the under $200 range) and best of luck.
But does HT help alot, or is it only going to shave a couple of minutes of my rendering time?

I'm not looking for a overclocked card, I can do that myself if I fealt the need to do so, I'm looking for a silent card.. So question: Is it silent?

I'll ask around in the PSU section.
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Which are fanless?
Is it worth €70 to render a few videos, though?
Only reason I wanted a Z68 is because of onboard graphics, V pro doesn't have onboard.
I might just go with P67 UD4



But does HT help alot, or is it only going to shave a couple of minutes of my rendering time?

I'm not looking for a overclocked card, I can do that myself if I fealt the need to do so, I'm looking for a silent card.. So question: Is it silent?

I'll ask around in the PSU section.
You will benefit from HT in CAD and rendering. Google Anand bench is gut.
SEasonic Fanless PSUs are fanless search newegg.
Silent card... Get a Twin Frozr or DirectCUII card. Passively cooled cards are a false economy. 2 have broken on me.
    
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You will benefit from HT in CAD and rendering. Google Anand bench is gut.
SEasonic Fanless PSUs are fanless search newegg.
Silent card... Get a Twin Frozr or DirectCUII card. Passively cooled cards are a false economy. 2 have broken on me.
I know I will benefit from it.. but is the benefit worth €70? I won't be rendering alot of videos, just one here and there.

EDIT: I only found a 400W and 460W fanless PSU on newegg and they don't even sell them in the shops that I use, so..
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I know I will benefit from it.. but is the benefit worth €70? I won't be rendering alot of videos, just one here and there.

EDIT: I only found a 400W and 460W fanless PSU on newegg and they don't even sell them in the shops that I use, so..
Hurrrr... dunno then.

I am getting the 2600k soon because my build has to last me 5 years.
Therefore, 8t is more futureproof. If you're just gunna be gaming, 2500k.
But if you wan tto fold, render, convert, etc... then 2700k.

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Hurrrr... dunno then.

I am getting the 2600k soon because my build has to last me 5 years.
Therefore, 8t is more futureproof. If you're just gunna be gaming, 2500k.
But if you wan tto fold, render, convert, etc... then 2700k.

It all depends on yu
I don't fold
I don't convert, Well.. I heaven't done it in years.
The only time HT would benefit me is rendering, and I don't do that too often. Bassicly I want to know how long it would take me to render a video with HT compared to a video without HT, would it only be 5 minutes faster or are we talking about half an hour?
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I believe the fanless PSUs are very expensive and in my experience the fans on the regular Seasonics are very quiet, I have a quiet (not silent obviously) build and I have yet to hear the PSU over my NH D-14 which is a very quiet cooler. The Seasonic X series also have active fan control which is when the PSU fan will actually not spin unless it needs too (above a certain temp or load). Like I said get a good idea of your needs/wants and then make a post in the PSU section here on the forum, they will set you straight.

As for the 460, I don't have first hand experience with it but it is fairly universally regarded as a quiet card. The only way I can think of getting yourself a quieter one is to spend much more on something like a good Asus DCII card or an additional aftermarket cooler. As already mentioned passive GPU coolers aren't a great idea unless the entire point of your build is silence with out any considerations for performance or cost effectiveness, usually you will get a much slower card for the money if it must be passive. I have read all of your needs and requests and I believe that the 460 1Gb I recommended will suite you well, otherwise I wouldn't have recommended it.

As for your exact question of much rendering time you will save I think that they do some rendering in the Anandtech review of the 2600k why don't you check that out and see if that is worth the price difference to you. If you only do it very rarely it might not be worth it but it still might be nice to have, that said the 2500k is a great value and no slouch.
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I don't fold
I don't convert, Well.. I heaven't done it in years.
The only time HT would benefit me is rendering, and I don't do that too often. Bassicly I want to know how long it would take me to render a video with HT compared to a video without HT, would it only be 5 minutes faster or are we talking about half an hour?
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I believe the fanless PSUs are very expensive and in my experience the fans on the regular Seasonics are very quiet, I have a quiet (not silent obviously) build and I have yet to hear the PSU over my NH D-14 which is a very quiet cooler. The Seasonic X series also have active fan control which is when the PSU fan will actually not spin unless it needs too (above a certain temp or load). Like I said get a good idea of your needs/wants and then make a post in the PSU section here on the forum, they will set you straight.

As for the 460, I don't have first hand experience with it but it is fairly universally regarded as a quiet card. The only way I can think of getting yourself a quieter one is to spend much more on something like a good Asus DCII card or an additional aftermarket cooler. As already mentioned passive GPU coolers aren't a great idea unless the entire point of your build is silence with out any considerations for performance or cost effectiveness, usually you will get a much slower card for the money if it must be passive. I have read all of your needs and requests and I believe that the 460 1Gb I recommended will suite you well, otherwise I wouldn't have recommended it.
I see you use Silent & Quiet
I'm not particularly looking for a no noise build I just want it to be as 'quiet' as possible while still having good performance.
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I just read a review of the i5/i7 by anandtech and to be honest, there was no real BIG difference between them in encoding, rendering etc
I think the €70 won't be worth it for me
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I see you use Silent & Quiet
I'm not particularly looking for a no noise build I just want it to be as 'quiet' as possible while still having good performance.
Yea, as I was kinda alluding to silence is only really possible if you spend a lot of money and make that your only goal of the build, sacrificing performance and many other things to achieve it. Quiet can be achieved fairly easily with minimal sacrifices to other aspects of the build. My rig is quiet, my rig is not silent. In my opinion you want quiet not silent. Everything I have recommended so far will fit in very well with a quiet build, the 460 and the seasonic X PSU. Make sure once you know exactly what you want from your PSU, like for example quiet, you ask the PSU section here, we have experts in there that can make an expert PSU recommendation for you, I can only tell you what has worked well for me in my limited experience.

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I just read a review of the i5/i7 by anandtech and to be honest, there was no real BIG difference between them in encoding, rendering etc
I think the €70 won't be worth it for me
That doesn't sound like a bad decision to me(obviously seeing as I made the same decision ) but just make sure that you will still be happy even knowing that for certain tasks the 2600k might be as much as twice as fast as the 2500k, those tasks are pretty scarce and gaming and other "normal uses" are not some of them, but still is worth mentioning that if you want the best or need 8 threads then the 2600k is the best bet, otherwise the 2500k is usually a better value for the money.
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