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Heres a better screen that I took...
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Your using a 470 OP, how would you be able to tell the difference without having a higher end card :/
There really is no higher-end card than a 470, at least not insofar as the image quality it's capable of. I'm sure he's at least seen DX11 before

I think it's important to remember that DX11 really can't 'do anything' visually that cannot be done in DX9, save for certain engines where it can implement AA that can't be done in DX9. DX11 is mostly about increased efficiencies, not graphical features.

My gripe w/TW2 (or rather nVidia, since it's their responsibility) is that the friggin SLI operation is screwy as all hell.

I often get (very noticeable) framerate dips all the way down to like 40fps ... which might be normal ... except that it also comes along w/large dips in GPU usage (50% on each card).

And it's not CPU-bottlenecking, because an easy change to the compatibility bits in the SLI profile will fix this problem, but unfortunately it causes some nasty light-bleeding effects.

It's not even fixed in the latest drivers either

C'mon, nV ... you guys need to get on this problem with one of the most popular games out right now!!!
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They created DX11 to make it easier for graphics cards to run games with awesome visual quality. But the devs don't really use it properly. I hope BF3 will prove this. Or else I will looks like an idiot for writing this LOL.
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one of the most beautiful games ive ever seen and im not even running it at max graphics. ill upload some screens
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Not only Witcher 2 is looking better on dx 9 than some games in dx11.

Look on Crysis 2 textures. On dx9 they looking better than any other game on dx11 : P x :
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I just don't get it, man. I can run uber at an average 40 FPS, and that's a 50% hit for me from ultra, but I would take the performance hit for the graphical upgrade if it was more appreciable. Honestly, I think the game looks better without it. I almost feel like it does its job too well. Characters in particular look unnaturally smooth. Not at all "blurry," as some people have said, but less realistic - like the difference between stylized animation and realistic animation. Just my opinion - I'd be curious to hear why (specifically) you like the ubersampling look.
You're like the 10th person to say they can't tell a difference("Honestly, I think the game looks better without it.") Maybe it's because of your monitor? I don't know, but on my TV there is a HUGE difference with ubersampling on & off. The game looks beautiful with it off yes, BUT it looks even more beautiful with it on. I stopped playing with ubersampling on though, because of mid-low FPS gonna wait till i get my 2 EVGA 3GB GTX580's to enjoy it better.
    
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There really is no higher-end card than a 470, at least not insofar as the image quality it's capable of. I'm sure he's at least seen DX11 before

I think it's important to remember that DX11 really can't 'do anything' visually that cannot be done in DX9, save for certain engines where it can implement AA that can't be done in DX9. DX11 is mostly about increased efficiencies, not graphical features.

My gripe w/TW2 (or rather nVidia, since it's their responsibility) is that the friggin SLI operation is screwy as all hell.

I often get (very noticeable) framerate dips all the way down to like 40fps ... which might be normal ... except that it also comes along w/large dips in GPU usage (50% on each card).

And it's not CPU-bottlenecking, because an easy change to the compatibility bits in the SLI profile will fix this problem, but unfortunately it causes some nasty light-bleeding effects.

It's not even fixed in the latest drivers either

C'mon, nV ... you guys need to get on this problem with one of the most popular games out right now!!!
470 is not a crappy card at all, it's only two steps below the 580 with 64 cores out, and it still kicks ass, when overclocked. it plays all games at max settings fine, aside from weird stuff like ubersampling in Witcher 2 and whatnot.
     
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I am not sure where people are getting that SLI is messed up on this game. I have ran it with my 580's in SLI since day one. Initially with uber-sampling enabled, but the I disabled it and everything else was set on ultra. For nvidia users you should go into nvidia control panel and change up the specific settings that are used when witcher2.exe is used.

My settings are as follows:
2560x1600 resolution
Textures on Very Large
LOD Distance on Far
Motion Blur and Bloom disabled
Uber Sampling disabled.
Everything else on highest settings.

nvidia control panel settings for The Witcher 2 (manually setup).
Anisotropic filtering: 16x
AA - mode: Enhance application setting
AA - setting: SLI 64x CSAA
AA - transparency: SLI 16x (supersample)
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*Obligatory Crysis statement.*

It's amazing what people can do if they put their mind and time into it, isn't it?
I agree.


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No.

The poly model is sharpy, and the texture resolution is... Low.


Crysis beats it upside down anytime.


Come on, just because the lighting is good doesn't mean that the poly count has increased, or something.


So, lighting engine=Very impressive
Polygonal count, texture resolution=Average.



Edit: It makes use of an ancient technique. Make of ultra high resolution what you see the most (Gerald), and increasingly forget about what's in a second plane.

AKA make the rocks shiny with a nice texture so they forget about everything else.


Might sound as fanboyism, but Crysis is the only game to date that didn't do this. Crysis 2 overused it to death, though.


Looks good, but surely not impressive. At least to me.
+1 for you sir. The lighting has everything to do with it. TOD files on Crysis 1 made a huge difference in shadow quality. Crysis 2 has the best lighting I've seen but it tried to cover up the low resolution areas of the game. DX9 is DX9, and it will not ever be more than that. Thinking DX9 can equal DX11 in visuals and performance you're dreaming.

Good Samaritan Demo in "true" DX11:

Edited by WorldExclusive - 6/5/11 at 10:10am
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I thought DX11 isn't out for Witcher 2 yet? Couldn't see the option.
    
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