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Lol yeah, I got those fans too.

I guess I got a little crazy when AP15s weren't in stock. So, without thinking I just bought the 5400 RPM ones. Holy cow lol. BUT! They are VERY NICE fans to use from 'time-to-time.' Since my rads are set to intake cool air into my case, I'll bump the 5400rpm fans up to a higher speed to suck the hot air out (works well, imo). I only do this for a few minutes, generally, then set them back to near silent operation.

I have my high speed Gentle Typhoons hooked up to a fan controller. Mine have a 3 pin connection and no molex. I'm not sure what yours are set up like. My best guess is that the easiest thing would be to connect the molex wires to a terminal then connect that to a fan controller.

Good luck. And those fans are nice, just don't run them at even 1/2 speed all the time lol.
Can you actually control them???

I just email their support centre and they replied

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Thank you very much for your inquiry and the interest in Scythe items.

If you looking to the rated current and starting current value you will see, that a controlling is not possible. Most of fan controllers supports arround 0.5-1.5 A
Rated Current:
0.22 A / 0.56 A / 1.14 A

Starting Current:
0.97 A / 1.35 A / 2.69 A
So now I kinda wanna throw them out from the window >_<

I was going to buy the 4-pin molex to 3 pin adaptor but after that reply from them I kinda don't see the point :-/
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I can control San Ace Panaflo's with my Sunbeam controller, you can control them no problem with a 30w fan controller.
    
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Can you actually control them???

I just email their support centre and they replied



So now I kinda wanna throw them out from the window >_<

I was going to buy the 4-pin molex to 3 pin adaptor but after that reply from them I kinda don't see the point :-/
Yeah, I was going to mention that in my earlier post.

Your fan controller needs to be able to handle the current per channel. Those 5400rpm AP30s take a bit more than a standard fan. I use a Lamptron.

Use p=vi to determine if a fan controller will work. My Lamptron (FC-4, one of the cheaper ones) can handle 20 watts per channel. So, p=vi or watts = volts * amps. So, it's 12 Volts...

then plugging in: 20 watts = 12V * i or (p/v = i, and 20/12 = i). 20/12 = 1.667 Amps. I now know my Lamptron has current sufficient to start my AP30s (since the starting current is 1.35 A; 1.35 A < 1.67 so no problemo.)

Just plug in the info for your fan controller and you can determine whether you need a more powerful controller.
    
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Yeah, I was going to mention that in my earlier post.

Your fan controller needs to be able to handle the current per channel. Those 5400rpm AP30s take a bit more than a standard fan. I use a Lamptron.

Use p=vi to determine if a fan controller will work. My Lamptron (FC-4, one of the cheaper ones) can handle 20 watts per channel. So, p=vi or watts = volts * amps. So, it's 12 Volts...

then plugging in: 20 watts = 12V * i or (p/v = i, and 20/12 = i). 20/12 = 1.667 Amps. I now know my Lamptron has current sufficient to start my AP30s (since the starting current is 1.35 A; 1.35 A < 1.67 so no problemo.)

Just plug in the info for your fan controller and you can determine whether you need a more powerful controller.
Thanks for all that explanation, i totally wouldnt have figure out my by myself how many Amps is in wats and all the rest

The one i have is this http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/fan_control/sentry_lx
and it says that Supports up to 6Watt per channel
so guessing it will support nothing... but it looks pretty tho

since now i have to change it.... Anyone can recommend me a fan controller that will show the temps & RPM and also live up to my needs ( support the 5400rpm, 12v)?? and if it looks good its even better and the price is not the problem
thxs

I looked up the http://www.lamptron.com/products/vie...ntroller_Touch seems nice and is 30w but dont know if i have to click on it to check the temps every time.

It would be nice to have one like the previous one that u can see all the temps all the time and it also
the starting current is 0.97 A / 1.35 A / 2.69 A so w30 = 2.5A, which would let me almost max it out. right?
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Yeah, I was in the same position a few months ago. Basically, what I did was just buy another fan controller for the higher RPM fans, and kept my Scythe for temps/lower RPM fans. I had enough 5.25" slots to do it. I do recommend the Lamptrons - they've worked well for me.
    
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You could just look on sidewinder for a rheostat for your big fans.

I used a lamptron on my big deltas but there are issues with noise still, just that the noise is motor related on early controllers ...maybe the later ones are better...anybody?

watts = current x volts by the way if you want to do quick calcs on controllers

For a very small spend you can determine the speed at which you are comfortable running those big fans... do you have a multimeter? any spare wire for a few experiments on the bench?

consider this... http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling...short-how.html
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You could just look on sidewinder for a rheostat for your big fans.

I used a lamptron on my big deltas but there are issues with noise still, just that the noise is motor related on early controllers ...maybe the later ones are better...anybody?

watts = current x volts by the way if you want to do quick calcs on controllers

For a very small spend you can determine the speed at which you are comfortable running those big fans... do you have a multimeter? any spare wire for a few experiments on the bench?

consider this... http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling...short-how.html
Just to make it all a bit simple for the novice:
Our fans almost always run on 12 volts.

So if you have the amperage of a fan and want to find the wattage:
Let's say you have a fan rated at 0.2 amps.
0.2 x 12 = 2.4 watts

And if you have the wattage of a fan and want to find the amperage:
Let's say you have a fan rated at 3 watts.
3 / 12 = 0.25 amps

You should consider the Rheosmart 6. It will allow you to control up to 6, maybe 12 fans. And you can connect the Rheosmart to your CPU_FAN mobo header to have the fans dialled down when not under load. But when OC/UL then the fans automatically speed up.

I am getting the Rheosmart for myself but I intend to have a small slow fan trained on it's back panel to keep it cool.

I have used a few fan controllers and I pretty much burned then all because they were all junk. Don't buy anything that has no heat sinks in the back of it.
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You should consider the Rheosmart 6. It will allow you to control up to 6, maybe 12 fans. And you can connect the Rheosmart to your CPU_FAN mobo header to have the fans dialled down when not under load. But when OC/UL then the fans automatically speed up.
Are you sure about that? That seems like a heckuva lot to put on a mobo header. Most mobos are 1amp, maybe a bit more, max (I thought, at least...I could be wrong.) If I'm not entirely off-base I think you could burn out the header. Those AP30s need 1.35A to start...I'd be careful about hooking them up to a mobo.
    
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Are you sure about that? That seems like a heckuva lot to put on a mobo header. Most mobos are 1amp, maybe a bit more, max (I thought, at least...I could be wrong.) If I'm not entirely off-base I think you could burn out the header. Those AP30s need 1.35A to start...I'd be careful about hooking them up to a mobo.
That's not how it works, it takes the pwm signal and splits to upto six outputs. There is no added load unto the mb header.
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That's not how it works, it takes the pwm signal and splits to upto six outputs. There is no added load unto the mb header.
Ok, thank you very much for that. Good to know!
    
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