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Originally Posted by drnilly007 View Post
did the mobo mount with the rubber and backplate on? is it touching the case if so could you short out the cpu as it would technically have contact with the case grounding?
I have reinstalled the mount a few times now and never removed the mobo since I have a cut out in the case for it. I ended up using the rubber and some electrical tape where the back plate touched the edge of the cutout for the CPU back plate since it was a bit big.
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post #52 of 68
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EK just replied to me again. I told them I used the rubber pad this time and sent a picture and they replied with this:

"No, you should not install the rubber pad with the LGA-1366 mount, seriously. The LGA-1366 ILM backplate itself is grounded therefore the EK-Backplate cannot short out anything. Otherwise the POM standoffs aren't doing the job they are supposed to!

Mount the backplate as per instructions and YOU WILL BE FINE! "

Should I go through the hassle of removing it? Maybe get better temps on that CPU?

EDIT:
EK replied to me when I was asking if I need remove the mount and take out the pad:

"Yes, please do dissasemble your waterblock and install the backplate according to the manual for LGA-1366 application! The EK-Backplate is NOT touching any electrical component when mounted correctly without the rubber pad thus it is safe to use."

What is your guys take? Should I bother?
Edited by Strobe - 6/16/11 at 7:38am
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post #53 of 68
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Originally Posted by Strobe View Post
EK just replied to me again. I told them I used the rubber pad this time and sent a picture and they replied with this:

"No, you should not install the rubber pad with the LGA-1366 mount, seriously. The LGA-1366 ILM backplate itself is grounded therefore the EK-Backplate cannot short out anything. Otherwise the POM standoffs aren't doing the job they are supposed to!

Mount the backplate as per instructions and YOU WILL BE FINE! "

Should I go through the hassle of removing it? Maybe get better temps on that CPU?

EDIT:
EK replied to me when I was asking if I need remove the mount and take out the pad:

"Yes, please do dissasemble your waterblock and install the backplate according to the manual for LGA-1366 application! The EK-Backplate is NOT touching any electrical component when mounted correctly without the rubber pad thus it is safe to use."

What is your guys take? Should I bother?
I wouldn't bother, it's not hurting anything.
post #54 of 68
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I might end up doing it anyway just because once I'm done tinkering with this setup its not going to messed with for several months when I drain the loop and refill.

Btw. I am super thrilled with GPU temps. from 46 on air to 26 on water is just silly. Today it is exactly 24C in my room right now and my CPU is currently clocked at 4.2Ghz @ 1.3v just for playing around. The GPU is in it's lowest power phase idling 2C over ambient. Was not expecting such a drastic change in GPU temps. The CPU temps are little disappointing to me. Only thing I do like is that OC'ing seems to have no effect on my temps even on load. Before OCing and throwing some voltage at the CPU instantly meant 80C+.
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Well I feel like I have finished everything except the fact these GT AP-14's don't want to all spin the same exact speed. I fixed the front most 2 fans on a Y cable to the controller and swapped the fans around until I had my 2 quietest there and they don't resonate when adjusting speeds. However, the pulls on the front rad resonate with each other trying several different ones of my GT's. REEEEAAALLLLYY annoying. They even resonate on minimum rpm.

Besides that, I have removed the CPU mount once again and took out the rubber per EK's instructions. Magically my temps on the CPU dropped about 8C load and 5C idle. Guess that shield back there is grounded like EK said in the ticket.
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post #56 of 68
Thanks allot for posting about your trials with the EK block. That is seriously going to help me when I install mine.

I am wondering if the reason that the online instructions differ from the instructions in your box might be due to the fact that there is more than one mounting system for the EK HF block. The new one is called Easy Mount... Just a thought.

If you are looking for those last few degrees on that CPU, I have read some really good things about Indigo Xtreme. I haven't tried it or done enough research to know whether I'd recommend it but I thought I'd throw it out there since you mentioned being a bit unhappy with your temps.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=26226

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post #57 of 68
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Thanks. Temps are great when I turn up the fans and pump, but when running things lower I don't get a big difference from air. I can get excellent temps in open air with the fans up. Better than expected that way actually considering the small case.

I would definitely mount the bracket as per instructions without the rubber for 1366 after seeing the temperature difference I got. Probably not worth the effort to totally remove the entire mount just to take it out though.

For the paste I think my mx-4 will do. Not about to remount if I don't have too.

One thing I'm noticing already that has got me worried is that my clear tubes are not near as clear already. I have a silver coil in my res using distilled water. I dumped the water last night and refilled thinking maybe there was crap in the rads from the manufacturer. I might get some pics up later. They have a yellowish green haze on them.
Edited by Strobe - 6/18/11 at 8:24pm
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post #58 of 68
Did you wash your rads out before installing them? Certain rads have a ton of crap in them from the manufacturer as I understand it. I found some good info in this article. You are already way past most of it but the bit on cleaning and maintanance might be helpful.

There are tons of guides out there but I thought this one was pretty well written and has great pictures.

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/water...beginners.html
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post #59 of 68
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That's a nice guide. I read through a bit and worried I might have to clean out my rads. What I fear most is taking the blocks apart to clean them. Going to check my loop later this week and if it looks even worse I'm going to order new tubes and clean some stuff out before it gets bad.
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post #60 of 68
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Ok. Finally got around to some pics. It has gotten even worse since I noticed it last week. Sigh.... I honestly don't care how discolored my tubes get, just want to make sure it doesn't affect anything. I won't be staring at the tubes since its in a closed case. As long as it doesn't gunk up the blocks or affect performance I can live with it.







Looks like a I took a piss in my loop or I'm running beer as coolant lol.

Little sidenote: The res looks crystal clear. It is only the tubing that seems to be affected color wise considering the res has no discoloration and the distilled water inside of it looks squeaky clean despite the yellowed tubing.
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