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haha thanks for the smart ass response. If you read around and do some looking you would know that the ram has a very high possibility of affecting your OC results. As in what it will end at *how high of a OC* and also your timing and temp. *can find countless amount of post about this use the search*

It is also very clear that you have not looked around the forums bcs you have not post any REAL information that we would need to help you.

Next time you ask for help, first try to help yourself.

Yah, i meant no disrespect. I have been scowering(spelling????) These forums, and lots of other forums. I am not a noob with computers, just with OCing.

I have done lots of research and read alot of guides, I have an understanding of basically what i need to do, and I understand the steps i need to take.

I am just looking for some one who has successfully reached a stable OC with the i7-960 for a reference. I am worried i might wreck somthing if i do it wrong(I know, worrie wart right.). So just looking for a detailed reference

Im 25, this is the first computer i have bought my self. Previously i was always using my fathers computers(Hes an avid gamer himself, Huge fan of the "Bioshock" Series). Thats why i have never attempted an OC in the past.

So to summerize.....Im looking for a stable 3.8 - 4Ghz i7-960 OC template, to use as a reference.

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Okay, long story short.... I would like to get to 3.8ghz stable. I have 12gb DDR3-1600(3x4gb), I7-960(D0 Stepping), and an Asus sabertooth x58.

Can you guys post some stable 3.8ghz OC templates for me to use as a reference. I would really appreciate it. I have seen a few templates already for i7-920's, but i would really feel better if i had an i7-960 stable template to reference.

Once I understand, and get some practical experience with OCing, i will attempt to go to 4ghz stable, and then eventually push to see how far i can take it.

Again I appreciate any information you can give me, and an accurate template to reference would be awesome.

Thankyou, Blood.
i had used Asus for long time, but i switched to Gigabyte so what i try to say is for me its no turn back to Asus anymore due the memory issue, i never had ant lucky with Asus board
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Using a template as a build for your oc is not how to find a stable build. Period. If you want 24\\7 stable you need to do it on your own. Each and every chip and mother board is different. From the quality of the caps and chokes on the board to the section of the flat that your cpu came from. Trying to guess and fill in the voltages isnt going to get you the results you want.

Using 12 gigs of ram is also going to complicate things. I agree that you should drop down the amount of ram your using and work your way up from stock speeds. This is the only way to truely get the results your after. Using 1 stick instead of all 3 will achieve this. You can add the other 2 later if it helps with your goals.

Most of the information you got pertaining to overclocking the 920 also crosses over to the 960. The only major differences is that the 960 has a higher multiplier and slightly higher voltages. Just be patient and it will pay off with a stable rig.

Thankyou very much, I understand what your saying completely. I understand how to(OC in theory), And i realize that every Chip(CPU) are slightly different.
I just want every bit of info i can get before i start OCing.

So 3X4gb ram chips(12GB total) is not good for OCing. Would you say that as it is, i still can OC(with the 12GB ram), but it will be more challenging?


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Basically, just start turning up your bclock 10 mhz at a time. When you start to BSOD, adjust your voltages as needed. I found this page to be extremely helpful in my oc'ing.
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Thankyou very much, I understand what your saying completely. I understand how to(OC in theory), And i realize that every Chip(CPU) are slightly different.
I just want every bit of info i can get before i start OCing.

So 3X4gb ram chips(12GB total) is not good for OCing. Would you say that as it is, i still can OC(with the 12GB ram), but it will be more challenging?


Thanks,
Blood
12 Gb (3x4gb) should not have much affect on your OC because you are only using 3 sticks. Its when you go to 6 sticks that your OC can suffer. As far as OC goes 3.8 should be very simple, even possible on stock volts. Start with a max multiplier, change your Core voltage (vCore) from auto to say 1.25- 1.3v, then continue to pump up your bclock a couple steps at a time. If you start BSODing step up your vcore a notch and continue until you reach your OC. monitor temps with HWMonitor and make sure to disable CE1 ( and a couple other things I can't remember atm) try to keep load temps (using IntelBurnTest or prime95) under 70C or so. Good Luck
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I dont have the Sabertooth x58 however I do have an i7 960
I am currently stable@
1.44v@ 4.3 ghz
172x25
CPU PLL@ 1.2v
QPI at 1.3v~
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I dont have the Sabertooth x58 however I do have an i7 960
I am currently stable@
1.44v@ 4.3 ghz
172x25
CPU PLL@ 1.2v
QPI at 1.3v~
WUT? There is no way your cpu pll is 1.2v on a X58. I think you meant 1.82. An i7 960 should be able to do 3.8 GHz with no voltage increase on the vcore. I would try this for starters.
For 3.8 GHz
-Enable turbo
-change ratio to 25x
-change bclk to 152
-vcore should be 1.25v
-memory ratio as close to stock as possible (or lower)

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So 3X4gb ram chips(12GB total) is not good for OCing. Would you say that as it is, i still can OC(with the 12GB ram), but it will be more challenging?
This is incorrect info. 3 dimms won't effect the memory controller as much as 6 populated dimms. Amount DOES NOT MATTER. We say add more voltage to VTT because all 6 dimms populated put a little more stress on the memory controller.
Edited by KBcobra - 5/29/11 at 6:45pm
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WUT? There is no way your cpu pll is 1.2v on a X58. I think you meant 1.82. An i7 960 should be able to do 3.8 GHz with no voltage increase on the vcore. I would try this for starters.
For 3.8 GHz
-Enable turbo
-change ratio to 25x
-change bclk to 152
-vcore should be 1.25v
-memory ratio as close to stock as possible (or lower)
I am fairly certain it is at 1.2v it is possible however that MSI switched names around a bit for their bios settings, wouldn't be the first time I have seen this happen coming from different motherboard brands.

I keep turbo off, since it's quite frankly useless in my case.
My motherboard allows me to manually select 25 multiplier which is the turbo boost maximum.
The i7 960 is a 24x133 mhz processor.

Turbo boosts allows it to hit 25x1333 for a maximum turbo boost of around 3.3 ghz as a quad core.

I think it only allows a multiplier of 26 when only 3 or less cores are used. Correct me if I am wrong.

Lastly why would I want 3.8 ghz when I am already at 4.3ghz? I will check up on the settings I am fairly certain it was CPU PLL.
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I am fairly certain it is at 1.2v it is possible however that MSI switched names around a bit for their bios settings, wouldn't be the first time I have seen this happen coming from different motherboard brands.

I keep turbo off, since it's quite frankly useless in my case.
My motherboard allows me to manually select 25 multiplier which is the turbo boost maximum.
The i7 960 is a 24x133 mhz processor.

Turbo boosts allows it to hit 25x1333 for a maximum turbo boost of around 3.3 ghz as a quad core.

I think it only allows a multiplier of 26 when only 3 or less cores are used. Correct me if I am wrong.

Lastly why would I want 3.8 ghz when I am already at 4.3ghz? I will check up on the settings I am fairly certain it was CPU PLL.
I was responding to the OP. I'm 100% sure your cpu PLL is NOT 1.2v. I know X58 systems very well and when I overclock to 4.3 ghz and beyond I set my pll to 1.88. You must be getting it confused with VTT or IOH.

Also for a 960 to get that 25x, Turbo MUST BE engaged. Most boards do it automatically or you have to set it to turbo. Also i7s like odd multiplier. You are correct though. In orders to get the 26x or 27x you have to shut off cores.
Edited by KBcobra - 5/29/11 at 7:30pm
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I was responding to the OP. I'm 100% sure your cpu PLL is NOT 1.2v. I know X58 systems very well and when I overclock to 4.3 ghz and beyond I set my pll to 1.88. You must be getting it confused with VTT or IOH.
-facepalm-

my bad.
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