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I'm going to be getting the Koolance RP-452X2 or RP-402X2. It's going to be two loops going through my current sig rig in this configuration:

Loop 1: EK HF Supreme / XSPC RX360 rad
Loop 2: (2) GTX 470's (EK-FC470's) / XSPC RX240 rad

Which pumps should I go with and why?
Side question: The 35x can be controlled by a fan controller right? And the D5 Vario's can only be controlled by their speed switch?
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post #2 of 27
The 35X pump will handle that loop no problem, not saying the D5 won't because it can. The 35x just has more head pressure.

Edit: one 35X will handle that just fine.
Edited by Kratthew D. Kraids - 5/29/11 at 2:24pm
    
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The 35X pump will handle that loop no problem, not saying the D5 won't because it can. The 35x just has more head pressure.

Edit: one 35X will handle that just fine.
Yes I realize one would work, but im definitely getting two for two separate loops. Just wondering if there's any reason to get one over the other. The price difference isn't a big deal
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post #4 of 27
Oh, derp, I read your post when I just woke up >_<. They are both strong pumps and will serve you fine, also if you do decide to go with dual D5's there is a top for sale here that works for dual loops and will improve flow rates a little.
    
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Side question: The 35x can be controlled by a fan controller right? And the D5 Vario's can only be controlled by their speed switch?
Yes, via PWM, and yes.

Either will work well with your loops, but can I ask why you are going for dual loops?
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Yes, via PWM, and yes.

Either will work well with your loops, but can I ask why you are going for dual loops?
I think im leaning towards the 35x's since ill be able to use a fan controller.

Im switching to dual loops because I switch out components often. Say something is wrong with a video card, I can take it out and put in a spare without a block without touching the cpu. It just seems more convenient to me. I know there's some other alternatives like quick disconnects, but yeah.
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post #7 of 27
No need for fan controller to control pump speed, just let it run.

A Single 350 would handle the whole thing fine, meaning two would handle it the same way if that's what you want to do.

And if you want convenience, look into Quick Disconnects.
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Originally Posted by sivarthcaz View Post
I think im leaning towards the 35x's since ill be able to use a fan controller.

Im switching to dual loops because I switch out components often. Say something is wrong with a video card, I can take it out and put in a spare without a block without touching the cpu. It just seems more convenient to me. I know there's some other alternatives like quick disconnects, but yeah.
in this case you need QD's
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...Path=62_60_104
run single loop ,one x35 and save you lettuce
    
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No need for fan controller to control pump speed, just let it run.

A Single 350 would handle the whole thing fine, meaning two would handle it the same way if that's what you want to do.

And if you want convenience, look into Quick Disconnects.
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Originally Posted by coolhandluke41 View Post
in this case you need QD's
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...Path=62_60_104
run single loop ,one x35 and save you lettuce
I know about quick disconnects, not sure if I want to use them though. Biggest turn-off for me is they don't come in black as far as I know of...

So back to my main question - which of the two pumps for two loops?
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post #10 of 27
If you want power, use 2 PMP-450 Strong w/ a Koolance CTR-SPD24X2 Dual 24V Pump Controller.

But if you want a set it & forget it setup use 2 D5 Vario in series(it will have enough power for your setup). It's quieter than the DDC, no need for voltage control.

And if you want to control your pumps w/ voltage or pwm use 2 DDC 35x, but you need a controller w/ a voltage/pwm plug that can take a high wattage of the unit.

Since you're using the Koolance bay res, It'll be better if you configure the two pumps in series for redundancy, & it's more powerful that way.

The setup is bayres->CPU->Rad1->2xGPU(serial/parallel)->Rad2->bayres
 
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