hey guys, i recent upgraded my card from a 450 to a evga 570 hd sc. it has been performing fine until i recently started playing rift. seems like after playing for half an hour or more that my computer freezes and the screen says it can't find a signal. after running into this issue twice, i had msi afterburner up and noticed that the fan on the card wasnt really doing much until i manually cranked it up to 50% then 75%. once i played @ 75% fan speed i had no real issues with the game freezing which led me to believe that i might be over heating. is there some sort of issue with the card that it wont automatically increase the fan speed along with the increase in card temperatures? is it drawing enough power from the psu (im running a 7200rpm hd with 5 fans with a 700watt psu)? if anyone has any suggestions i would really appreciate it!
sorry for the lack of information. the highest temp i saw before freezing was 86C with the gpu at 84% and the fan at 54%. the fan normally runs at 40% it it took it a long time to even get that high. something doesnt seem normal.
Originally Posted by ebbenson3;13681942
sorry for the lack of information. the highest temp i saw before freezing was 86C with the gpu at 84% and the fan at 54%. the fan normally runs at 40% it it took it a long time to even get that high. something doesnt seem normal.
I would say yes it is over heating, what are your ambient temps? Also if I were you Id use EVGA's overclocking utility due to the fact that Afterburner is mainly for ATI.
My old 285 ran @ 92 deg all the time and 480 @ 85 befor water cooled , my old 9800gtx was 90 degs and 8800gt was 99 deg. Need to run msi afterburner and load up a game and look @ max temp of card, so we know.
Originally Posted by i7Stealth1366;13681966
I would say yes it is over heating, what are your ambient temps? Also if I were you Id use EVGA's overclocking utility due to the fact that Afterburner is mainly for ATI.
Afterburner works fine for Nvidia and is probably the best thing for him to use, you know MSI makes Nvidia cards too right?
OP I would first of all set up a custom fan profile in AB and then just keep an eye on things as you use it and see if any other issues present themselves, but if it's just overheating then a custom fan profile should take care of it.
Originally Posted by i7Stealth1366;13681966
I would say yes it is over heating, what are your ambient temps? Also if I were you Id use EVGA's overclocking utility due to the fact that Afterburner is mainly for ATI.
That's the first time I've heard this. What does afterburner not support on Nvidia cards? What's the downside to using afterburner on Nvidia, as I have been doing it all my life from 8800GTs to GTX 570s. Basically, I'd like to see some proof of that statement.
Also to the OP 86C is pretty hot for a 570, but Ive been up there before on a EVGA 460 and no shutdown from temps. Although those are the type of temps I'd expect to see running furmark or something, not just from gaming. If you deem the issue to be overheating, you may want to work on your case airflow or downclock the card.
The other solution is to just create yourself a fan profile in afterburner that ramps the fan up based on temperature. Or if you don't mind the extra noise from the fan speed just set the settings to constant 60-70% fan speed.
Originally Posted by juano;13682060
Afterburner works fine for Nvidia and is probably the best thing for him to use, you know MSI makes Nvidia cards too right?
OP I would first of all set up a custom fan profile in AB and then just keep an eye on things as you use it and see if any other issues present themselves, but if it's just overheating then a custom fan profile should take care of it.
Yes, I do know this however if you have a EVGA card I would use the EVGA software. Not going to hurt performance or anything. I heard the fan on the 570HD is not a good as the stock fan.. is this true? I heard its like smaller or something...
im going to run the OC scanner for an hour and see what kind of numbers i see. someone told me to make sure i scan for artifacts and enable heavy draw mode on the power draw control to make a high gpu usage, any recommendations?
im curious why the fan isnt working as it should, by that i mean scaling with the temperature of the card.
as for the airflow in the case, it cant get much better than what i have already.
can anyone confirm that the stock video cards are better than the HD superclocked?
Originally Posted by ebbenson3;13682283
im going to run the OC scanner for an hour and see what kind of numbers i see. someone told me to make sure i scan for artifacts and enable heavy draw mode on the power draw control to make a high gpu usage, any recommendations?
im curious why the fan isnt working as it should, by that i mean scaling with the temperature of the card.
as for the airflow in the case, it cant get much better than what i have already.
can anyone confirm that the stock video cards are better than the HD superclocked?
Running latest furmark 1.9.0 or something with OCP disabled (check /gtx500ocp) will bring you to your temperature ceilings real quick.
Edit: I have a vanilla 570, albeit in SLI as the second card (non-display), and really beastly airflow in my case temps on that card never really above 70C regardless of what I'm doing, usually around 50-60C in gaming. I always run the fan at around 60+% though.
The best bet would be exchanging for one with an aftermarket cooler such as the DCII or MSI TFIII, and those aren't more expensive than the reference model. But failing that yes I would still expect the reference blower cooler to be a small step up in cooling performance for you.
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Originally Posted by h2beez;13682415
Running latest furmark 1.9.0 or something with OCP disabled (check /gtx500ocp) will bring you to your temperature ceilings real quick.
I've found that for the past 3 gens or so of GPUs, especially factory OC cards, if you don't use manually set (or better yet auto-scaled fan speed based on temp) the built-in fan scaling of high-end cards will allow way too much heat, and the cards crash.
Use MSI afterburner, and set the fan to automatic fan control, then double click the stepped temp/speed graph to make it a curve.
You'll never overheat again, and it will stay quiet when not under load.
The AXP will certainly handle your temperatures problems and will do so quietly at that but you will want to check compatibility with the 570HD which uses a different PCB than the regular 570 so it may not be compatible, just yet another reason why I dislike the HD. Let me look and see if the AXP is compatible for you.
EDIT: As for compatibility I'm gonna go with a no. I did find somebody who was able to hack the crap out of both the AXP and the stock cooler to get it in place but I would not recommend this. I would just try and exchange the stupid HD for a regular 570, that could accept a AXP if you are unhappy with it's temps.
The best bet would be exchanging for one with an aftermarket cooler such as the DCII or MSI TFIII, and those aren't more expensive than the reference model. But failing that yes I would still expect the reference blower cooler to be a small step up in cooling performance for you.
Which would also be an excellent way to kill his card almost immediately with the just a reference 570 PCB and the ambients he is running.
Highly unlikely considering hes running it with factory OC settings which probably have the voltage at or below 1.000v. I've done it plenty on my evga 570, of course I'm not saying to run furmark for hours like he suggested. A few minutes with furmark ocp off will hit the temp ceiling. Also if you've read the killed 570 thread you're really only at risk with OCP off around 1.1v and at 900core+.
It isn't the GPU diode temps that are killing the 570s its the VRMs frying, yes from temps, but at higher voltages than EVGA factory superclocked.
But still be safe though and don't do it if you are set on returning it. The card gets too hot anyways no need to check the temps if you already know that's why they are shutting it down.
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