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My dad is a guitarist, old timer, and he wants to record his music while he still can. We want it too so Im trying to figure out a way to get his music into a computer, with what simple equipment we have:
-A good Mic
-sound amplification/modification unit, basic controls (i dont know what its called)
-a computer

Im sure Ill need to buy a sound card that will accept a digital coaxial signal or something, but what we have for output now is a 2 pairs of Left&Right RCA cables, and one female jack that looks like a speaker cable(something like 1/4")

As you can tell Im completely inexperienced when it comes to sound systems. If we could run off of one pair of the RCA cables without getting mono output maybe something like

would work?

Thank you
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Well i have a basic solution i dont know what your budget is but ill toss this out there
Its Called 1Box from PreSonus and it can be picked up from music sites and stores like Guitar Center for about $250.
I just got one of there mixers the 16.4.2 and was totally impressed by it. All you need in your computer is a USB 2.0 and your good to go comes with a decent mic and headphone's and of course all the cables you would need.
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The easiest way to achieve what your looking for is to buy a usb recording interface.

This one is geared towards guitar players and comes with a ton of built in effects and a recording software suite(DAW).
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Line-6-P...89-i1427099.gc

Going with an interface is going to be the easiest option, and there are better and more expensive methods you could choose, but im not sure what your budget is.
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I don't know too much about recording, but I do know, record in the highest quality possible, you can't gain quality later so you minus well use some extra space and make it as good as possible.
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Thanks everyone. You've given me some things to consider. +rep.

Anyone that has any additional input please comment, I'm still monitoring.

Thanks again
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Any feedback as to what direction you have decided to take? Im curious to see what your setup is going to be.
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Thanks Matt, I am actually making today my deadline to decide so I'm going to try putting it all together today.

I believe the line 6 unit you linked only works for electric, my dad plays classical, so I need something that will use a mic.

We have a nice microphone already. The other thing he has, I guess its an old analog mixer? I don't know the terminology, but he says he's happy with the sound quality from all of it. He would use it to take to weddings and such to amplify his sound.

I dont know if it will be cheaper/better to just buy a digital replacement for what we already have or find an intermediary device to go from the analog to the digital.
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Originally Posted by DIY_dAn View Post
Thanks Matt, I am actually making today my deadline to decide so I'm going to try putting it all together today.

I believe the line 6 unit you linked only works for electric, my dad plays classical, so I need something that will use a mic.

We have a nice microphone already. The other thing he has, I guess its an old analog mixer? I don't know the terminology, but he says he's happy with the sound quality from all of it. He would use it to take to weddings and such to amplify his sound.

I dont know if it will be cheaper/better to just buy a digital replacement for what we already have or find an intermediary device to go from the analog to the digital.
oh ok, I was unaware that he was using a classical acoustic guitar. In that case it switches things up a bit. If you currently have an analog mixer, all you will need is a cord to go from the output of that mixer. If you could link the mixer you have, or tell me what output jacks it has, that would help me point you in the right direction.

Since this is an analog solution, you will still need a DAW program if you wish to record. There are a few free ones available that will work brilliantly with analog recording.

These are the programs I suggest:
Audacity
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Kristal
http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/

Another thing to consider, if your working with onboard audio, is looking into getting a dedicated sound card. Having a dedicated sound card will help with clarity, sound quality and recording latency.

This should be more than enough to get the job done:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-020-_-Product


For your output cables coming from your mixer, you are most likely going to need an RCA to 1/8" Or dual 1/4" to 1/8", such as these:

1/4" TRS to 1/8" stereo jack cable

RCA to 1/8" Cable
post #9 of 14
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Wow, thanks alot! I think were getting close to a solution.

I went to take a look at it today. Its a "Kustom KPM4080, powered mixer, 80 watt MOSFET"

There are two pairs of RCA connections coming out of the back labeled "Play Rec / TAPE" and one 1/4" jack labeled "Line out"
Now that I have a name and number I can show you.

The soundcard you linked looks good, would I want to go with the 1/4" or the RCA cables? Would you need 2 sets of cables if you used the RCA to get the whole sound output or are those just duplicates?

Thanks so much!
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Wow, thanks alot! I think were getting close to a solution.

I went to take a look at it today. Its a "Kustom KPM4080, powered mixer, 80 watt MOSFET"

There are two pairs of RCA connections coming out of the back labeled "Play Rec / TAPE" and one 1/4" jack labeled "Line out"
Now that I have a name and number I can show you.

The soundcard you linked looks good, would I want to go with the 1/4" or the RCA cables? Would you need 2 sets of cables if you used the RCA to get the whole sound output or are those just duplicates?

Thanks so much!
By the looks of it, it would be easier to connect the mixer "record" RCA outs to the 1/8" input jack (usually the pink jack) of your sound card. If your using computer speakers connected to your PC for your monitoring you will not need to loop the sound back to the mixer. If you however do want to use the mixer to monitor your sound, you would need an additional RCA to 1/8" cable attached from your speaker output (normally the green jack) to the "Play" in RCA connection at the back of the mixer.

Alternatively the "Line Out" can be used to go to the input of your sound card via a 1/4" mono to 1/8" jack. Do not plug your output into the main outputs of the mixers, as they are amplified and will damage your sound card. The main outs are designed to power passive speakers, plugging them directly into a sound card could fry it.

As soon as you get your cables, and have installed your DAW program, I suggest that you download the ASIO driver package http://tippach.business.t-online.de/...10_English.exe

It will help improve with hardware latency, and with my experience is far better than the standard WDM driver. If you need any help setting up your DAW program, or setting up the ASIO driver settings, just let me know.

Furthermore, if you have any additional questions on anything else I have said, feel free to let me know.

Let me know how everything works out.
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