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Originally Posted by Mygaffer;13683931 
I really want to try and dispel this myth. For 99% of modern games you don't need any better than high-end single gpu to run at max or near max settings with good min. frame rates.

EDIT: I have Crysis on Steam. How do I run the benchmark?

It's a batch file in the game's folder. Here is the path:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\crysis\Bin32\Benchmark_GPU.bat
post #52 of 109
My 27" Samsung looks great at 1080p to me. Best thing to do is go down to a CompUSA or something and check them out for yourself and see if the resolution is enough for you. Nobody can really tell you what you will find acceptable....
post #53 of 109
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Originally Posted by Hydros;13685959 
My suggestion. If you buy 1920x1080 instead of 1920x1200 you will have money to buy the mouse and keyboard too. If you buy 1920x1200 you dont.

Seriously. This shouldnt even need to be discussed in 2011. 16:9 is the best aspect ratio for games so 2560x1440 and 1920x1080 should be the only options really.

Not really no. In FPS games, 1920x1200 takes more pixels to form images (due to being essentially "zoomed in") and so you see enemies further away easier. 16:9 still better?


If you want 1920x1080 over 1920x1200, why not jump straight to using 1920x600?`You see even more at that resolution, but you won't use it, because it sucks.
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I have an Iiyama Prolite B2712HDS 27" 1920x1080 monitor and it looks wonderfull even though it's just a TN panel. Colors are correctly calibrated too right out of the box, which was a big plus to me after the nightmare I had with the previous LG 26" IPS I had ordered, colors looked horrible because of the wide gamut mode enabled by defaults but I already knew that and a lot of people said that turning off wide gamut and switching to the traditionnal RGB mode would solve the issue but the colors still were far too flashy and you had to lower the brightness a lot to just make it bearable.

Needless to say I returned it and that made me quite scared to ever try another IPS again because they all have Wide Gamut modes as far as I know, and on some you can't even switch it off. Anyway, I was a bit scared too that 10080 would be too low a resolution coming from my 1680x1050 22" but I didn't loose any clarity at all, nothing looks blocky or anything, granted I don't sit directly in front of my monitors (I sit about 1m away) but even up close it still looks perfectly sharp to me.
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Basically the formula is that if you want to get same fps in 1440p/1600p as 1080p/1200p you will have to go from 1 card to 2 cards. Unless you have games that not very GPU intensive like Source, Blizzard games, COD then one card will be fine.
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post #56 of 109
just get the Dell U2711h!

I would hate to game at anything more than my 23" at 1080p... I can just about see the individual pixels if I look out for them, so generally it's okay, but I reckon they'd be pretty obvious on a 27" screen... that sounds horrible to me.

My 16" laptop is also 1080p, and although obviously the screen itself (colours, contrast etc) are far worse than my Dell U2311h, it really looks far better in terms of pixel density. I can't see the pixels at all, and everything looks really natural. Curves mainly look curved, there's no 'blockiness' at all.

Beside from the pixel density, the U2711 is an amazing screen anyway, and I imagine far better than almost any 27" that has a res of 1920x1200 or 1920x1080.

If it was me, I'd just get the U2711. With your GPU you'll still be able to run most things maxed out, and the very few games that you can't it'll only be a case of turning down the AA or something, and I think they greater pixel density and actual screen quality of the Dell will more than make up for any slight difference in game settings.

As I said before, 23" at 1920x1080 is pushing it a bit for me, I wouldn't go any higher in size without increasing resolution, so I imagine 27" at 1080p would just look awful.
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post #57 of 109
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Sorry to sound ignorant...but lets say I were to go Dell U2711...its a high resolution IPS panel @60hz. It doesn't come with any fancy LEDs or 120hz refresh rates that most mainstream TN panels come with....Will I be missing out by going IPS with only 60hz and no LEDs?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steven88;13686246 
Sorry to sound ignorant...but lets say I were to go Dell U2711...its a high resolution IPS panel @60hz. It doesn't come with any fancy LEDs or 120hz refresh rates that most mainstream TN panels come with....Will I be missing out by going IPS with only 60hz and no LEDs?

That's rediculous

Floresent and LED make little difference, think you have oled and led confused

same tech different bulb ... oled on the other hand is a different approach
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post #59 of 109
The Dell UltraSharp U2711 and the NEC PA271W-BK are both 27" and both have a max res of 2560x1440 (16:9) if that is the kind of thing you're after.

The Dell will cost you $800 and the NEC will cost you $2K wink.gif
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post #60 of 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydros;13685959 
My suggestion. If you buy 1920x1080 instead of 1920x1200 you will have money to buy the mouse and keyboard too. If you buy 1920x1200 you dont.

Seriously. This shouldnt even need to be discussed in 2011. 16:9 is the best aspect ratio for games so 2560x1440 and 1920x1080 should be the only options really.

This apparently DOES need to be discussed because you throwing out a lot misinformation. Have you ever sat side by side with the two aspect ratios to see what is lost? First of all, no modern game has "black bars" or "stretching" at different aspect ratios. Modern engines are able to scale their image meaning you get none of what you claimed.

Secondly I HAVE say a 16:10 and 16:9 monitor side by side and looked at the difference. You want to know how much peripheral vision you lose at 16:10? A sliver. Basically in one scene lets say there was a sign that said "Bathroom" right at the edge of the display. In the 16:10 it might be cut off at the "h", so you would see "hroom" and on the 16:9 it was cut off at the a, so you would see "athroom". Literally, it was like take whatever is on the edge of your viewable area on the 16:10, then move out the screen a quarter of an inch and that was the difference.

I don't know why people insist on keeping these myths alive, maybe they are trying to justify their cheaper 1080 panels, I don't know, but all you have to do is compare them yourself to see that the difference in peripheral vision is minuscule.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hermitmaster;13686007 
It's a batch file in the game's folder. Here is the path:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\crysis\Bin32\Benchmark_GPU.bat

Thanks, now I can put my min=21.74, max 29.61, average 26.22.
DX10, no AA, Very High settings @2560x1600.
Quote:
Originally Posted by steven88;13686246 
Sorry to sound ignorant...but lets say I were to go Dell U2711...its a high resolution IPS panel @60hz. It doesn't come with any fancy LEDs or 120hz refresh rates that most mainstream TN panels come with....Will I be missing out by going IPS with only 60hz and no LEDs?

Not really. Most of the LED monitor's today use white LED back-lighting, so you actually end up with worse color gamut then w/a fluorescent back-light. I have heard some people say good things about 120Hz panels but unfortunately have not yet been able to see one first hand. I have seen video of a strange bug in Fallout 3 on a 120Hz panel where everything happened twice as fast in game, but I am sure that is an isolated incident. Of course if you have any interest in current 3d tech you'll need 120Hz, personally I hate shutter glasses 3d but to each their own.
Edited by Mygaffer - 5/30/11 at 2:48pm
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