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Hello,

These are my current system specs>>
MB> GA-P67A-UD7-D3 (Bios ver is F4, official bios)
CPU> i7 2600K
RAM> 2x4 G.skill CL9 1600 v1.5
HDDs> 2x1TB WD blacks no raids (a year old), 1x2TB WD Green (a week old)
GPU> 2 EVGA GTX 570 (but using only 1 right now cause I sent the other to the shop to fix a noise problem it came with)
PSU> NZXT 1000w Gold Plus
OS> Windows 7 x64 not SP1 yet

Now here is what has been going on since 26/05, While I was playing "World of Tanks" the game froze, sound was stuck and screen turned black with white stripes, I had to force a restart, the minidump was accusing a dll file of nvidia's which when I searched for on the internet it sounded like a random hiccup of Nvidia and it only happened once so I ignored it. But the game started crashing to the desktop since then but not very often, it never did that with my older pc, so I don't know if it's from the game side or my side.

This isn't really the part I care about, here is the real problem.

Yesterday around 8pm, I was about to transfer a 7gig folder from my main disk to the storage disk, as soon as I entered the partition that I was transferring to, I had a blue screen saying only "Unknown hard error", I force restarted and the MB resat the Bios and it restarted again and since then windows wouldn't boot, it kept asking for repair and during that repair it said "System was unable to boot" several times and after the many repair runs it kept saying it failed to fix the problem.

Then I unplugged my storage HDDs and only left the system HDD, booted from windows 7 DVD and tried to repair but still said it couldn't fix the problem, in the report it said there was a problem with ci.dll, so I started "command" and put these commands (bootrec.exe /fixboot, bootrec.exe /fixmbr, bootrec.exe /rebuildbcd) after that I restarted and windows booted perfectly, right after that I shut down the computer, plugged in the 2 other HDDs, windows booted perfectly then all of the sudden, the keyboard wasn't responding (not even it's leds were working) same thing with my mouse, I looked at the HDD led and it wasn't doing anything at all, no small flickers or anything, so I force restarted, it booted like normal, I started to transfer a folder to 1 of my storage HDDs, opened up firefox, it was acting really slow, everything I was doing on it was lagging although nothing was draining the CPU or ram or anything, opened few pages, when the transfer was about to finish, the pc restarted.

After the restart, the event log says "kernal power" event id 41, category 63 and it didn't give me any minidumps. Anyway I went to sleep around 3AM, left my downloads running and was hopping nothing would happen but something sure happened, the event log says at 4:30 AM "The Windows Modules Installer service entered the stopped state." then no new events till 6:45 AM which was a warning saying "TCP/IP has chosen to restrict the scale factor due to a network condition. This could be related to a problem in a network device and will cause degraded throughput." No other events till I had waken up at 10:37 and found the monitor turned off not responding, HDD led completely off, no flickers, basically nothing was responding.

So here I'm don't know what the hell am I supposed to do, I have a decent knowledge regarding windows problems, but this problem is too open and wide, is it 1 of my hard disks? is it the lonely GPU I have right now? is it the ram? is it the CPU? is it the internet connection related? I need some guidance on how to eliminate each of them.


Edit: before the MB resat the Bios, the CPU was overclocked to 4.2GHz and I tested it many times and it was very stable, so when the system hanged after the boot problem was fixed, there was no overclocking involved, there was no heating issue, temps were normal, I have a 1000w plus gold certified PSU.

Awaiting your helpful replies.
Edited by The Wannabe - 6/2/11 at 8:45am
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That "Unknown hard error" bluescreen and the other problems you've mentioned sound like something is causing silent data corruption of windows files + drivers.

For me, it was my ram (if there are only so many read errors from ram, windows ignores it/tries to fix them, but it doesn't always get it right and typically leads to file corruption). Have you tried running memtest for a few passes to see if the ram is funny?
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Uninstall Microsoft Security Essentials if you have it. On my UD7, it was causing massive data corruption and BSODs repeatedly. It took weeks worth of effort to pinpoint what exactly was causing it--I thought it was the motherboard at first or my RAM--but nope, it was MSE.
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Thank you both for responding, I will start with removing MSE, if that didn't fix it will try the memtest, it would really be a shame if it's really MSE causing this problem, it's fairly light compared to any other app. But I really hope it would be MSE and not a hardware issue, it takes days to replace anything. Will let you know later today how it plans out.
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try memtest to eliminate the ram
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Wannabe;13684776 
Thank you both for responding, I will start with removing MSE, if that didn't fix it will try the memtest, it would really be a shame if it's really MSE causing this problem, it's fairly light compared to any other app. But I really hope it would be MSE and not a hardware issue, it takes days to replace anything. Will let you know later today how it plans out.

I know, I was surprised too, but I tested everything on my PC including 10 passes of memtest with single sticks.

I noticed something odd, though. When I was trying to pinpoint where the data corruption was coming from, I formatted my comp and installed the most basic programs. This included WinRAR, uTorrent, Steam, graphics drivers, chipset drivers, and iTunes.

I would game fine, and everything worked perfectly, so I finally decided to reinstall MSE. It updated fine, etc and restarted my comp after it installed. So, everything appeared fine. Then, I booted up a game. 15 minutes into it, I BSOD. My downloads would get data corrupted, and it was impossible to extract anything.

Googling microsoft security essentials causing bsod comes up with a pretty big list.
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Originally Posted by jivenjune;13684790 
I know, I was surprised too, but I tested everything on my PC including 10 passes of memtest with single sticks.

I noticed something odd, though. When I was trying to pinpoint where the data corruption was coming from, I formatted my comp and installed the most basic programs. This included WinRAR, uTorrent, Steam, graphics drivers, chipset drivers, and iTunes.

I would game fine, and everything worked perfectly, so I finally decided to reinstall MSE. It updated fine, etc and restarted my comp after it installed. So, everything appeared fine. Then, I booted up a game. 15 minutes into it, I BSOD. My downloads would get data corrupted, and it was impossible to extract anything.

Googling microsoft security essentials causing bsod comes up with a pretty big list.

Yeah it's not just you, I've had MSE do the exact same thing. Ridiculous when you think about it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by masonkian;13684780 
try memtest to eliminate the ram
I will, but since it takes too long to finish this test (and I have 2 sticks so that's double the time) I will leave it for last, for now I will do easier tests, if nothing works then I will go ahead with memtest.

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I know, I was surprised too, but I tested everything on my PC including 10 passes of memtest with single sticks.

I noticed something odd, though. When I was trying to pinpoint where the data corruption was coming from, I formatted my comp and installed the most basic programs. This included WinRAR, uTorrent, Steam, graphics drivers, chipset drivers, and iTunes.

I would game fine, and everything worked perfectly, so I finally decided to reinstall MSE. It updated fine, etc and restarted my comp after it installed. So, everything appeared fine. Then, I booted up a game. 15 minutes into it, I BSOD. My downloads would get data corrupted, and it was impossible to extract anything.

Googling microsoft security essentials causing bsod comes up with a pretty big list.
It's really weird, I have been using MSE since windows 7 was released, it never caused any problem with me, I just wonder (in case MSE was really my problem, hopefully it was) why now? I mean what triggered it!! or is it just buggy for fun?
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I will, but since it takes too long to finish this test (and I have 2 sticks so that's double the time) I will leave it for last, for now I will do easier tests, if nothing works then I will go ahead with memtest.



It's really weird, I have been using MSE since windows 7 was released, it never caused any problem with me, I just wonder (in case MSE was really my problem, hopefully it was) why now? I mean what triggered it!! or is it just buggy for fun?

Same. It's my favorite anti-virus, but it just didn't wanna play friendly with my rig. The problems you're describing sound pretty similar to the ones I had, so i'm just wagering it has to do with MSE.

Edit: It works fine with every other pc in my house which includes Vista 32 bit, 64 bit, and Windows XP.
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So, I removed MSE, installed Kaspersky AV 2011, after it updated it ran some scans, minutes later it's registry keys went missing, it refused to work, tried to repair it but it wouldn't, tried to remove it but it wouldn't, so I restarted, tried to repair and it required few restarts, right now it's been like 2 minutes since I logged on, now waiting for the next disaster.
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