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Will the memory limit the cards that much as I don't plan on using multiple monitors or resolutions above 1920x1080.

RMA GTX 570, get GTX 580.... what brand?!?!
Both MSI and EVGA did it, though every time it was that user's 2nd 570 RMA and they specifically asked for it as compensation. Suppose you could force the issue with Bios mods and running it at >1.1v with no OCP in Furmark, but I doubt you would get cards that would die otherwise.

As for the memory, are you planning on getting Skyrim? Or more specifically modding it? If yes, you definitely want 2GB of VRAM. If you like playing at high AA levels(something 560ti SLI can handle), get the 2GB. Hitting the VRAM barrier is like getting hit by a truck when it comes to framerate drops.
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I would say stay away from the PNY card. I have had too many of that brand just crap out on me, and have just had enough of them myself. I am currently using the Palit 560 ti 2gb card and it has performed great over that last few months with no problems at all. Its also quite as well, although I haven't overclocked it at all yet, I play BFBC2 all the time and its maxed out with no issues, so no need to overclock. Good luck with your purchase.

Just outta curiosity... Can you ask maybe the store clerk if he can order you a card? Is this a huge retail store or more like a mom & pop setup. That way if he orders the card for you, then you will have your peace of mind of buying locally. Just a thought.
Noted on the PNY warning. Canada Computers is a large company, they have a dozen or so stores in Ontario, Canada. They won't order cards for you, only whats available in their inventory, each store manages itself and what it sells so I guess I could ask the manager to start selling Palit and MSI 560's

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Both MSI and EVGA did it, though every time it was that user's 2nd 570 RMA and they specifically asked for it as compensation. Suppose you could force the issue with Bios mods and running it at >1.1v with no OCP in Furmark, but I doubt you would get cards that would die otherwise.

As for the memory, are you planning on getting Skyrim? Or more specifically modding it? If yes, you definitely want 2GB of VRAM. If you like playing at high AA levels(something 560ti SLI can handle), get the 2GB. Hitting the VRAM barrier is like getting hit by a truck when it comes to framerate drops.
No, not planning on getting Skyrim. I don't plan on modding it. I like to have 2x or 4x AA on, but I'm willing to disable it. So if I were to disable AA, then there would be no difference between the 1GB vs. 2GB versions in SLI?
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GTX 560 Ti's perform better for the games I'm Playing:
Yes by ~5 FPS ... but the cost is at least 40-50 buxs less per card. Plus ATI cards run cooler and less power hungry.

Either way both cards are going to perform well
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OC 560 ---> get 570 performance

OC 570---> get 580 performance.

blah blah blah. I keep telling people, buy whatever your wallet can squeeze. The 570 is the sweet spot for 1080p IMHO. Cuda cores and extra 2800MHZ Vram will be your friend in Battlefield 3 IMO, and if that's not enough, another one running in SLI, and you'll be smooth sailing for a good 3 years
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I would say stay away from the PNY card. I have had too many of that brand just crap out on me, and have just had enough of them myself. I am currently using the Palit 560 ti 2gb card and it has performed great over that last few months with no problems at all. Its also quite as well, although I haven't overclocked it at all yet, I play BFBC2 all the time and its maxed out with no issues, so no need to overclock. Good luck with your purchase.

Just outta curiosity... Can you ask maybe the store clerk if he can order you a card? Is this a huge retail store or more like a mom & pop setup. That way if he orders the card for you, then you will have your peace of mind of buying locally. Just a thought.

i have 2 PNY GTX 560Ti in my rig, and they running pretty fine i guess u had a bad luck with them.
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OC 560 ---> get 570 performance

OC 570---> get 580 performance.

blah blah blah. I keep telling people, buy whatever your wallet can squeeze. The 570 is the sweet spot for 1080p IMHO. Cuda cores and extra 2800MHZ Vram will be your friend in Battlefield 3 IMO, and if that's not enough, another one running in SLI, and you'll be smooth sailing for a good 3 years
SLI is exactly what I'm worried about, my current psu can barely handle 2 GTX 570's on stock speeds, and I don't plan on changing my psu as I just got this thing. I'm not too convinced that I need more than 1GB of VRAM as I'm only using 1920x1080 resolution and don't mind using low AA or having it disabled altogether. Unless BF3 actually requires more than 1GB of VRAM.
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post #47 of 57
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SLI is exactly what I'm worried about, my current psu can barely handle 2 GTX 570's on stock speeds, and I don't plan on changing my psu as I just got this thing. I'm not too convinced that I need more than 1GB of VRAM as I'm only using 1920x1080 resolution and don't mind using low AA or having it disabled altogether. Unless BF3 actually requires more than 1GB of VRAM.
1GB of VRAM is becoming more and more common. If you want the card to last a good long while, you'll probably want a little more, even at 1920 x 1080. Right now, it's kind of rare, but I guarantee you that we'll start seeing games that use more than 1GB soon.

As far as your choice goes, I had the exact same dilemma a couple months ago prior to buying my 560 Ti. I thought I was set on the 570, but ended up picking up a nice OC'd version of the 560 Ti instead because I was a tad low on money.

Now, not to say that I dislike the card at all (I love my Hawk, it's very nice), but if you have the money to pay for a 570, I'd say go for it. 1280 MB of RAM will give you a little buffer while trying to render the newest games, and the performance increase is pretty large, especially while OCing.

Had I about a hundred bucks more in the bank at the time of my new GPU purchase, I wouldn't have hesitated in buying a 570. I play very demanding games (Crysis, etc) and, although it has worked very well in everything prior to this, The Witcher 2 actually averages at about 30FPS on high settings. Not ultra; high. What I take from this is that games are only getting more and more demanding, and if you want to be able to max out games for a little while with your rig and are willing to spend a bit of a premium? Pick up a 570. If you're on a budget? Pick up a 560 Ti.

EDIT: Your PSU should be able to handle two 570s just fine.
Edited by 5outh - 5/30/11 at 11:17pm
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post #48 of 57
Asus GTX 560 Ti Direct CU II - $260
570 isn't worth it.
save the extra cash for SLI 1 year later
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post #49 of 57
Getting a reference 570 and OCing is like asking for RMA. If it didn't have that problem you're still left with reference cooling which is worse than a DirectCU II. Not to mention that it limits OCing.

The 560 is just fine, an extra 256MB of Vram won't improve performance. Check out the freaking benchmarks on the HD6950 1GB vs 2GB.

The 560 can OC very well and it's cheaper, what more can you ask for ?
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The 560 is just fine, an extra 256MB of Vram won't improve performance. Check out the freaking benchmarks on the HD6950 1GB vs 2GB.
Vram won't make a difference on many games now, because most games don't use a full GB of Vram right now.

However, once they pass that 1GB mark, performance plummets. Benchmarks for a game that utilizes a full GB+ of Vram would be very different than the benchmarks you're citing.
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