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Obviously they're not thrown in the back of an "82 tercel" lol... Funny image. That video only tested up to 80Mph. What about head-on collisions? 60+60

But the point is that they're more open to terrorist attacks being out in the open. IED, RPG, Heists, etc.
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just think about how small the european contries are. even if germany bans nuclear plants, nuclear power plants that blows up in France will still ruin germany lol or anyother bordering countries.
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Obviously they're not thrown in the back of an "82 tercel" lol... Funny image.
Yeah, it is, and it's the vibe I got from your paranoid ranting.

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That video only tested up to 80Mph. What about head-on collisions? 60+60
Newton's third law: Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

A headon 60 + 60 is equal to a headon into a solid object at 60.

This has even been proven in practice. The Mythbusters took a bunch of crummy Hyundais and thunked 'em into a few things. First, into a concrete wall at 50MPH, then into the same wall at 100MPH, then into each other at 100MPH. The damage done in the last crash was identical to the damage done when one car hit the solid wall, the G-meters mounted in the trunks reported the same forces plus or minus about five Gs, and the high-speed camera footage is awesome to watch.


Not that it matters much. I don't think you can quite wrap your head around how much energy the train tests contained. There is no way in hell you're going to get a car to deliver anywhere near the impact those trains delivered, and the flasks survived those tests 100% intact.

Lastly, there's no way in hell the truck would ever have a head-on with another vehicle. The road is closed while the convoy passes through. The only vehicles moving near it are moving in the same direction as it.

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But the point is that they're more open to terrorist attacks being out in the open.
Lolwut? Paranoia? Sorry, I don't let overgrown three year olds with explosive temper tantrums dictate how I live my life and how I think. I only stand to lose if I let fear of something 100% out of my control dictate my life, so I just shrug and ignore it entirely.


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IED,
Maybe in the mid east, but when was the last time an IED took out a car in America or Europe?
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RPG,
This is the silliest thing I've heard in years!

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Heists
Apparently you missed the several times I mentioned the armed guards surrounding the flask every inch of it's trip. Go back and re-read. I'd love to meet the thief that could manage to steal the flask without being noticed, though......as long as he's chained to a battleship.
Edited by TestECull - 6/1/11 at 1:09pm
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just think about how small the european contries are. even if germany bans nuclear plants, nuclear power plants that blows up in France will still ruin germany lol or anyother bordering countries.
Yes somehow is useless if the purpose is to avoid the danger of a plant going boom !
But maybe the nuclear waste is the problem in Germany ,they don t know what to do with it anymore.
   
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heh...I was thinking the same thing. If a train smashing into it does nothing then nothing short of JDAM is going to dent it; if that. An RPG/IED/double stacked mine might scratch the paint.

Stealing it would involve a major military operation.

The only risk with moving it is the cost involved...or the drivers getting lost.
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A headon 60 + 60 is equal to a headon into a solid object at 60.
That's incorrect. Relativity. To each object it is at if they're traveling to a solid object at 120 (mph/meters/whatever).

What you're saying is if I walk into an oncoming train, and I'm walking at 3 mph, that's it will feel the same as if I walked into a stationary wall at 3 mph. I can assure you that's not the case.
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If we care so much about nature ,let s just use less energy .
Lets start use low wattage electronics and buy less electronics in general ,so the need for more power to be lower.
We have out fault here as we all like to use all kind of stuff that use this kind of energy.
Unfortunately the alternative sources are not present in all areas of the world in necessary amount so the exploatation to be efficient.
Germans already do this
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That's incorrect. Relativity. To each object it is at if they're traveling to a solid object at 120 (mph/meters/whatever).

What you're saying is if I walk into an oncoming train, and I'm walking at 3 mph, that's it will feel the same as if I walked into a stationary wall at 3 mph. I can assure you that's not the case.
......Having fun twisting things to suit your own point?
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Germans already do this

Your Move
Romania has maybe 50 percent of the energy made in hydro system ,if i m not mistaking.
Also we have some other hydroes under construction for many years and we could also build more.
Romania has many rivers that can generate electricity ,but unfortunately we have no real government for the moment to promote such a policy (but this is politics).

We have like 10-15 percent made with a relatively NEW nuclear plant ,made with canadian technology during the 90's, which should be safe in my opinion ,much safer than anything in the area.

The problems is that bulgarians still use a very old nuclear plant which uses the same technology and safety as the Chernobal one
It s very close to us so if some earthquake takes place and it blows we are ...

This should be a strategy at UE level so all countryes (from UE) to go for it.
   
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post #130 of 156
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Yit's the vibe I got from your paranoid ranting.
Damn, if my cool headed rational thinking is paranoia to you, you should join a religious group sometime and see the kind of paranoia preached to their members...

It still stands true that storing the waste at already secure facilities poses less risk than transporting them. Try to realize there's places on this Earth outside the USA and that gathering an RPG isn't all that hard. Apparently you've never heard of moon rocks being stolen or full body armor bank robberies. You don't have to attack from the outside either. We let felons work in Airport security already which sneak past background checks. That's supposed to be one of the most heavily guarded areas of transportation since 9/11.

100,000 transports may happen flawlessly but just one accident is enough to affect millions of people. You also need to go back and retake high school physics with your display of knowledge about the laws of motion.

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......Having fun twisting things to suit your own point?
No, that's called a logical thought process. Flipping the reverse isn't twisting anything. That's how you see if the formula still holds true. Both sides have to equal each other.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 6/1/11 at 2:06pm
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