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I wouldn't mind living next to a Nuclear plant until the black swan event, then I can pretty much be guaranteed a life of weird genetic problems, and god forbid I have more kids who knows what happens then.

I guess it all comes down to what people are willing to accept, and Germany as a whole as said, thanks but no thanks.

Let's say we find a way to create energy that is infinite, but holds a very small chance of completely destroying the world, should we just accept that rarity as a fact of our energy consumption? Obviously an extreme, but a nuclear meltdown will completely irradiate an area to where it is no longer usable effectively forever.

Nuclear energy isn't worth it. When the black swam event happens it is catastrophic to all life around it. That risk isn't worth it for the people of Germany apparently, good for them.
How many people die each year due to issues from burning coal or gas? Sure Nuclear power isn't perfect, but I'd wager it has killed far less people than viable alternative methods. The problem is that with Nuclear the effects are much more measurable, which increases the number of people that will freak out about things they don't fully understand.
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The leftist green maniacs must be jumping for joy right now.

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Sigh.

Greenpeace idiots are fail.

It's the eco nuts and anti-nuclear folks who caused this whole mess, by stopping new, much safer reactors from being built, forcing utility companies to prolong the life of the far less safe first gen reactors. They're also the ones who have delayed and finally halted construction of nuclear waste storage sites like Yucca Mountain, forcing nuclear plants to store their waste on site, much less securely and safely than it would be stored in an actual facility built for that purpose.


Way to go guys. Way to go.
Very well put Sir!
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no theyll cut us back to 250 watt psu and onboard video
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The leftist green maniacs must be jumping for joy right now.



Very well put Sir!
seconded...look at Japan....people think that will happen to all nuclear power plants somehow. Talk about an irrational conclusion.
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So, under Obama we've had a disastrous oil spill in the gulf and a disastrous nuclear accident in Japan. How very convenient for him and the anti-industry left...
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Thorium reactors need more backing. It will be quite a while before fusion is viable.
    
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How many people die each year due to issues from burning coal or gas? Sure Nuclear power isn't perfect, but I'd wager it has killed far less people than viable alternative methods. The problem is that with Nuclear the effects are much more measurable, which increases the number of people that will freak out about things they don't fully understand.
The problem with Nuclear is that when those black swan events happen it's horrifying to all involved. Land is ruined, people are irradiated, it can have lasting consequences for generations if it's severe enough. This is not me freaking out, it's a fact. There is no reason why humans shouldn't be working towards safer more viable alternatives. Ones that never kill humans unless it's some freak accident, you know like wind blade falls on worker, geothermal technician falls into center of earth.


I'm pretty optimistic though.

German though thinks they can do it, so good for them.
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Gonna agree with the demographic here.

Greenpeace are a set of obsessive nutjobs.
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It's the eco nuts and anti-nuclear folks who caused this whole mess
I think it had more to do with people who were not qualified to run a nuclear plant in which caused massive leaks of radiation then Green peace folk.


Building a nuclear plant near a fault line and or ignoring the fault line for decades does not give an earthquake right of way to justify what has happened.
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I think it had more to do with people who were not qualified to run a nuclear plant in which caused massive leaks of radiation then Green peace folk.


Building a nuclear plant near a fault line and or ignoring the fault line for decades does not give an earthquake right of way to justify what has happened.
HUH?? The Fukushima plant was built to withstand a 7.9 earthquake (Japan was preparing for the large EQ in southern Honshu, not northern Honshu), and a tsunami of up to 4 meters (5 meter high seawall). The EQ was 9.0 and the tsunami that hit the plant was nearly 10 meters high. Yes, there were design flaws, but go back to Tater Tot's comments, Fukushima was a 1st gen power plant that was designed in the 60's, and they stored spent fuel on site as well. Current generation light water reactors are very safe, but they are not allowed to be built because of the tree huggers who think that solar and wind power will be able to replace coal and nat gas right now, they are wrong. Someone needs to take away your keyboard.
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