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Nuclear is the final source of energy for humans as far as I'm concerned. Nuclear or regress to simpler life. Simpler life may not be a bad thing, I just don't beleive we're capable of actually doing it.

Fact is, nuclear energy already produces every watt of energy on Earth.

Wind, solar and water are not feasible, economically or geographically.
    
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Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129;13687781 
Sigh.

Greenpeace idiots are fail.

It's the eco nuts and anti-nuclear folks who caused this whole mess, by stopping new, much safer reactors from being built, forcing utility companies to prolong the life of the far less safe first gen reactors. They're also the ones who have delayed and finally halted construction of nuclear waste storage sites like Yucca Mountain, forcing nuclear plants to store their waste on site, much less securely and safely than it would be stored in an actual facility built for that purpose.


Way to go guys. Way to go.

Agreed.
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BTW - who thinks Germany is BS'ing?
    
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post #94 of 156
Expect energy prices to soar in Germany.
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Originally Posted by Obakemono;13696689 
HUH?? The Fukushima plant was built to withstand a 7.9 earthquake (Japan was preparing for the large EQ in southern Honshu, not northern Honshu), and a tsunami of up to 4 meters (5 meter high seawall). The EQ was 9.0 and the tsunami that hit the plant was nearly 10 meters high. Yes, there were design flaws, but go back to Tater Tot's comments, Fukushima was a 1st gen power plant that was designed in the 60's, and they stored spent fuel on site as well. Current generation light water reactors are very safe, but they are not allowed to be built because of the tree huggers who think that solar and wind power will be able to replace coal and nat gas right now, they are wrong. Someone needs to take away your keyboard.

Still. 50 years is long enough to update your procedures and your storage. Coming from a plant myself, I understand the "red-tape" to improve on things. But taking them into your own hands pushes things forward. Frankly, that plant never did anything of the sort.

I'm saying that the recent disgust towards Nuclear energy was because of the leak. Not because the plant got leveled or Green peace "OMGWTHBBQ". You are suppose to design protective systems, as an engineer, to withstand more then what is expected and improve over the years. Decades of using the same practice is well discourage over here.
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Originally Posted by lordikon;13691322 
How many people die each year due to issues from burning coal or gas? Sure Nuclear power isn't perfect, but I'd wager it has killed far less people than viable alternative methods. The problem is that with Nuclear the effects are much more measurable, which increases the number of people that will freak out about things they don't fully understand.

Being someone who works in this field, most of the deaths caused by burning coal and or gas are more related to depression, overworking, and or work related injuries that happen anywhere that involves construction then Oil or gas directly.
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Originally Posted by Jzkillzone23;13688428 
I mean just because the Japaneese who are in a MAJOR EARTHQUAKE ZONE, didn't think about how stupid it was to build a nuclear plant near a giant fault. It shouldnt make other country's without large earthquake hazards look away from nuclear energy.

Their entire country is on the fault.
post #97 of 156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129;13687781 
Sigh.

Greenpeace idiots are fail.

It's the eco nuts and anti-nuclear folks who caused this whole mess, by stopping new, much safer reactors from being built, forcing utility companies to prolong the life of the far less safe first gen reactors. They're also the ones who have delayed and finally halted construction of nuclear waste storage sites like Yucca Mountain, forcing nuclear plants to store their waste on site, much less securely and safely than it would be stored in an actual facility built for that purpose.


Way to go guys. Way to go.

I'm not too worried, you'll build some big ultra-high-efficiency power supply to save us all one day.
 
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post #98 of 156
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Originally Posted by 8ight;13707003 
I'm not too worried, you'll build some big ultra-high-efficiency power supply to save us all one day.
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I agree with Phaedrus. People like to exaggerate the problems with nuclear, when in reality it really is the safest source of energy we have. Many coal plants have run into problems before, and not to mention that the pollution from coal itself is harmful and effects thousands of people.

The only problem with nuclear is people won't allow it to improve, ie environmental nuts.
I don't like extreme environmental nuts
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Originally Posted by Lettuceman;13711731 
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I agree with Phaedrus. People like to exaggerate the problems with nuclear, when in reality it really is the safest source of energy we have. Many coal plants have run into problems before, and not to mention that the pollution from coal itself is harmful and effects thousands of people.

The only problem with nuclear is people won't allow it to improve, ie environmental nuts.
I don't like extreme environmental nuts

nuclear disasters have effected more then coal.
post #100 of 156
The problem are not the plants ,but the people that are taking care of them.
Chernobal failed due to vodka and the japoniese ones because they should of been closed at the date when the disaster occured ,beeing obsolete tech.
   
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