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No, that's not how it will work. The push fans of the rads will suck air from inside the case push it thru the rads to cool it then go out & the pull fans will cool the rads by pulling air also from the case then out while cooling also the rads.
What do you mean that's not how it will work lol? That's exactly how it's going to work. I'm drawing air from the outside on top of the case (Coolest and desnsest, so naturally it will want to go down not up) and pushing the cold air through the rad where it takes heat from the water running through and then continues through the rad and is pulled out by the fans on the bottom and then it gets forced out by my exhaust fans. I don't want to use hot air from the case to run it through the rad, that defeats the purpose. Cars don't suck air from the engine bay to cool the engine, same principle.
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You can use a y-splitter to connect 2 of the pull fans to the CPU header. But check the manual of your mobo if it can handle the combined amps of the fans. The V-pro can handle 1A so it can handle the two pull fans.
 
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What do you mean that's not how it will work lol? That's exactly how it's going to work. I'm drawing air from the outside on top of the case (Coolest and desnsest, so naturally it will want to go down not up) and pushing the cold air through the rad where it takes heat from the water running through and then continues through the rad and is pulled out by the fans on the bottom and then it gets forced out by my exhaust fans. I don't want to use hot air from the case to run it through the rad, that defeats the purpose. Cars don't suck air from the engine bay to cool the engine, same principle.
No, if you draw cold air from the outside, the rads that you'll be cooling w/c will get hot when it's cooling the hot water will make the pull fans exhaust "hot" air to your case, while the other intake fans in your case will do the job that will only draw cold air & the other fans, the exhaust fans, will exhaust air that became hot while inside your case.
 
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No, if you draw cold air from the outside, the rads that you'll be cooling w/c will get hot when it's cooling the hot water will make the pull fans exhaust "hot" air to your case, while the other intake fans in your case will do the job that will only draw cold air & the other fans, the exhaust fans, will exhaust air that became hot while inside your case.
Yea that's the goal. I want the hot air to blow into the case. It really won't be too hot and The airflow in that case will tackle the job easily. Ambient temps don't worry me at all. I really doubt this thing will get hotter than 10C above room temp inside no matter which way the rad is blowing but I am excited to find out. Never had a wrong design blueprint yet so we will see. But just for you I'll do a little test when I do the build. I'll run the fans for the rad from the inside to out and then reverse it. I won't be suprised to find that the CPU is cooler and case temps are maybe a fraction warmer when I draw air from the outside. Sure it might be marginal at best but I still prefer having cold air to cool something since that is the objective. Not trying to argue so don't take it personally. I'm just saying what makes sense to a lot of people seeing how the principles of water cooling came from automotive coolers on cars which pulls air from the outside. Sure the engine bay (computer case) might be warm but hell the motor (CPU) is running smooth.

The goal is to have the highest potential to desaturate the buffer (water) of its energy (heat). Colder air means it can take more.
Edited by jona2125 - 5/30/11 at 12:23pm
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It's okay, I was not taking it personally. I don't know much about cars, but if you look at all of the pictures of the WC rigs here, almost all of the setup, the push fans are pulling hot air from the case not the other way around. Only in cases where there are alot of intake fans do they reverse the order.
 
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I'm not sure if you're on a budget or not but that haf x has loads of room so for the very best performance while being quiet I'd go with this block cpu water block:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10...?tl=g30c85s139

Then the rx 360: http://www.jab-tech.com/XSPC-RX360-T...r-pr-4384.html

mcp 655 pump : http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmc12vdcpuw.html


For the best price to performance ratio:

xspc water block: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11...?tl=g30c85s139

swiftech 360 rad: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835108098

mcp 350: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835108098 (these are new, and almost half priced)
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When you mount it on top you don't want it to pull in air, you want it to push it out, the air is not going to be that hot. If you do it the way you're trying to do it your just going to see higher temps on your gpu. Hot air rises which is why you mount the rad as intake it has to be on the front/ side/ rear, but you always want the top to be exhaust, hot air rises.
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When you mount it on top you don't want it to pull in air, you want it to push it out, the air is not going to be that hot. If you do it the way you're trying to do it your just going to see higher temps on your gpu. Hot air rises which is why you mount the rad as intake it has to be on the front/ side/ rear, but you always want the top to be exhaust, hot air rises.
The gpu is going to be isolated from everything in the case. It will have dedicated air cooling. I'll do it my way and everyone else's way. I'm just looking for the best cooling
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The gpu is going to be isolated from everything in the case. It will have dedicated air cooling. I'll do it my way and everyone else's way. I'm just looking for the best cooling
*facepalm* Your gpus are in the case, you are putting more heat in the case this will make a very noticeable increase in their temps while if you just do it the correct/effective way your cpu is cooled the same and your gpu/mobo/ram is cooler.

But you can do it your way and increase the temps inside the case and blow hot air directly onto your components.
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*facepalm* Your gpus are in the case, you are putting more heat in the case this will make a very noticeable increase in their temps while if you just do it the correct/effective way your cpu is cooled the same and your gpu/mobo/ram is cooler.

But you can do it your way and increase the temps inside the case and blow hot air directly onto your components.
I will actually. I'll report back on temps. It's worked in every other case I've done cooling for and I'm pretty sure it will work for mine. Never seen lower temps than when I did it my way. I don't understand why a new idea is rejected so harshly. This isn't your average drop in some fans and put a radiator in setup. Everything from the top of the GPU will be in it's own sectioned off zone. I'm not too concerned about the temps of the air blowing over the motherboard from the rad since it will be met with plenty of air from outside the case. Here's a little pic to show what I'm talking about. It's hard to explain and show through computer transcription. The end products for me have always yielded the best gains, always. I'm not trying to start a fight I'm just saying that the way I've done it has yet to let me down. Delta fans and vantec tornadoes do work every time.

The rad will run cooler, period, which makes everything else run cooler which lowers temps going into the case. There is nothing but airflow in the case. The ambient temp in the case isn't my concern at all, I know it will be low.

EDIT: Forgot to mention my slot exhausters too.

Edited by jona2125 - 5/30/11 at 2:17pm
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