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So I got the new Samsung 27" LED SA550, a TN panel. Now I thought my previous monitor was a TN and they weren't as bad as people were saying... Well I JUST NOW figured out my last monitor was S-PVA and that I actually despise TN panels cuz of the viewing angle (like laptops).

Story:
Several years ago I had a good 20" Samsung which was probably S-PVA (no viewing angle issues), then I got another 20" Samsung for dual monitor and it had horrible viewing angle problems so I hated it for a dual setup (this was a TN for sure). Then I get my Samsung 21" 215TW which could rotate to portrait mode so viewing angles had to be good, and I loved it. When Hanns-G made a 3ms 28" for $550 4 years ago, I picked it up asap as 30" were $1000+. But this had viewing angle issues if you weren't in the same horizontal plane which bothered me, but it was big, fast, and could connect my Wii to it. That one died under my BestBuy 4yr plan last year and I got a full refund since there were no 27" at the time. Used the money to get a Samsung 3d Plasma which is pretty awesome but the image retention worried me as a monitor plus it's not as bright as LCD. Recently, my Samsung 21" died so I was looking at getting a 120hz or 27" (or both). I thought I'd always had TN panels this whole time until I got my 27" TN and saw the viewing angles issues that I disliked. Lol I feel like such an idiot! I just figured out the 21" was S-PVA which is comparable to IPS, at least in viewing angles.

Question:
I still have 30 days to return this 27" TN panel (S27A550H), so what's a good IPS or S-PVA with fast response time for gaming not more than $350?
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Dell UltraSharp U2311H.
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Originally Posted by thisischuck01;13690593 
Dell UltraSharp U2311H.

Good [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-U2311H-Widescreen-DisplayPort/dp/tags-on-product/B003QTKV9W"]price[/ame], but says 8ms response time. Do you game a lot and/or have experience with the speed of this display in fast paced games compared to TN panel speed? The S27A550H is 2ms and my last was 5ms.
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Originally Posted by Indpendent;13690750 
Good price, but says 8ms response time. Do you game a lot and/or have experience with the speed of this display in fast paced games compared to TN panel speed? The S27A550H is 2ms and my last was 5ms.

GTG response times mean nothing, they're all manipulated by the manufacturer. You're not going to notice a difference between this monitor and your previous monitors, in fact most people report that they notice less ghosting and input lag with this monitor.

Here is a review.
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Well after reading all the reviews and using my monitor for a day, I'm considering getting the U2311H to do a side-by-side (just need also a 120hz monitor for the comparison, too, lol). Idk, I love the size and the speed of mine, but cannot justify the price of a 27" IPS equivalent. Stepping down to a 23" but no color shift... I can't determine if it's worth it. This color shift is pretty annoying coming from using a plasma and an S-PVA screen prior. Just sitting upright in my chair, at an eye height with the top of the monitor, then sitting back in my chair, the colors change so much!

Thanks and +rep on the U2311H suggestion. This is exactly what I was looking for in an IPS, just don't know if I can trade off size and speed for better viewing angles. Guess it'll come down to if I can stand the color shifts in lieu of speed, size, weight, and very low power. If only the U2311H was LED...
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If it's worth anything, I just got a U2311H too and... wow.

Not only are viewing angles a non issue, but colors are.. deeper / more defined?

It's a quality monitor and quite frankly is just stunning wheee.gif

So far no ghosting at all, played BC2, BF2142, GW, TF2, Crysis: Warhead, CS:S
and lastly Magicka with no problems.

The speed on the U2311h is completely unnoticeable compared to my previous Acer P235H.

As for the LED backlighting, Dell is planning it for Q3 of this year! Linky biggrin.gif
    
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Wow thanks for that site link - I musta been reading that entire page for 30min!

Also thanks for your experience with the U2311H! I really feel like I want it but maybe I can wait for the LED version. Idk, I was waiting for the Samsung SA950 series and it never came out :/ Then I found out how expensive it was going to be and gave up on it.
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Ok so I've been trying to figure out if I should wait for the DELL LED IPS later this year, or get the U2311H now... Then I find out LG has LED IPS and their 23" is the same as DELL's (DELL's uses the LG IPS panel for their display?) but cheaper!

So it's the DELL CCFL IPS "U2311H" for [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003QTKV9W"]$270 +$15 shipping[/ame] or the LG LED IPS "IPS236V" "IPS231P" which is available for [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004KM4AQY"]$244 from Amazon[/ame] with free shipping.

Supposedly both panels are the same, so should be same quality... Anyone have any thoughts on one better than the other?

LED IPS vs CCFL IPS issues?

Only thing I see is DELL having 4 USB ports, VESA mount, and swivel/height adjustments for $40 more, minus LED.
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Originally Posted by Indpendent;13690750 
Good price, but says 8ms response time. Do you game a lot and/or have experience with the speed of this display in fast paced games compared to TN panel speed? The S27A550H is 2ms and my last was 5ms.

Gaming on a modern IPS panel like that you will not notice any difference between that and most TN panels. The figures quoted are generally lies anyway, my S-IPS panel has never given me any trouble gaming.
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Originally Posted by Indpendent;13839176 
Ok so I've been trying to figure out if I should wait for the DELL LED IPS later this year, or get the U2311H now... Then I find out LG has LED IPS and their 23" is the same as DELL's (DELL's uses the LG IPS panel for their display?) but cheaper!

So it's the DELL CCFL IPS "U2311H" for $270 +$15 shipping or the LG LED IPS "IPS236V" which is available for $244 from Amazon with free shipping.

Supposedly both panels are the same, so should be same quality... Anyone have any thoughts on one better than the other?

LED IPS vs CCFL IPS issues?

Only thing I see is DELL having 4 USB ports, VESA mount, and swivel/height adjustments for $40 more, minus LED.

Do NOT assume the LED will be better. It may be brighter or have a better contrast ratio but they typically have a smaller color gamut than CCFL. Are there any good reviews, with actual measured specs, on the two monitors?
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Ok so I've been trying to figure out if I should wait for the DELL LED IPS later this year, or get the U2311H now... Then I find out LG has LED IPS and their 23" is the same as DELL's (DELL's uses the LG IPS panel for their display?) but cheaper!

So it's the DELL CCFL IPS "U2311H" for $270 +$15 shipping or the LG LED IPS "IPS236V" which is available for $244 from Amazon with free shipping.

Supposedly both panels are the same, so should be same quality... Anyone have any thoughts on one better than the other?

LED IPS vs CCFL IPS issues?

Only thing I see is DELL having 4 USB ports, VESA mount, and swivel/height adjustments for $40 more, minus LED.

I checked a few personal reviews and it appears to be mostly the same that Dell will be offering later this year.
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Originally Posted by http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037080934&postcount=19 
u2311h and ips236v use the same panel (it's an lg panel). The difference is backlight (CCFL vs. LED), ergonomics and settings menus.

I'm no fan of edge lit LEDs but some were had for $209 a few months ago so check around to see if you can find a deal.
Edited by Draygonn - 6/11/11 at 7:20pm
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