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So, I've decided to go big on my next build. I'm going to be reusing some of my older parts, so any which I've already bought will have bought next to it. I'm open to buying new parts and selling the older ones though if it's really necessary. Will be almost entirely for gaming. Minus some university tasks (nothing technical, write ups/reports/essays).

There are a few things I'm undecided on the specific product and would like some pointers. Anything I've already bought will be in bold, anything I'm undecided on is in italics.

Case: TJ07
Mobo: MSI P67A-GD53 (B3)
CPU: i5 2500k
RAM: Probably cheapest 1600mhz DDR3. Most likely CAS9
GPU: GTX 570 or 6970
PSU: 650w Xigmatek modular - Bought
HDD: 640gb Samsung F1 - Bought
Fan controller: Sunbeam four channel - bought
5.25" bays: Quiet drive for HDD, DVD drive - Both bought
SSD: 64GB for the OS (undecided)
Water: MCP655, MicroRes, MCR220, 1/2" tubes & Apogee GT. Add in XSPC RX480 or pa120.4(undecided)[/I], replace the res with a EK multi option res + new EK supreme HF/GPU block (undecided)[/I]. Each rad will have the appropriate number of 1650rpm yates.
Extras: Powder coated internals (black) on case, powder coated custom mid plate to tidy up, side window and top window.
Rad holder for the quad/double rad in the bottom of the case. Possibly get some more powder coated metal to tidy up the side of the 5.25" bays so they're covered. Similar to this & this minus the screens. Individually sleeve each cable in black.
Black compression fittings and clear tubings with dark blue liquid.

Kind of tempted to add in some light blue cathods + an on/off switch but we'll see. Problem is I don't want it to be really bright. I might even look into adding the blue cathods but having both windows tinted. Thoughts?
Edited by RollerBallMouse - 6/3/11 at 10:17pm
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Looks pretty nice. Case is personal choice but TJ07 air flow is a little low on intake.

Motherboard is a very important component! Do not gimp out in this category. Lately GIGABYTE and ASUS seem to have good ratings. I would actually buy the latest Z68 series. It offers better functions and two new amazing features; Quick Sync and SSD Caching!

RAM is personal choice also but the Vengeance and RipjawsX series have nice heat spreaders.

For GPU, I'd get AMD for RPG/MMO. For FPS, I would go with nVidia.

30GB SSD to me is a waste of money. Might as well get a nice Caviar Black RAID. A 30GB is like buying one just to have one.

Not going to comment on what you've bought already. All aesthetics are personal so have fun with those lights!

Good Luck and Have Fun Man!
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SSD is required, even 30GB will suffice, running an OS off a HDD is like being in the stone age, except you wont notice a difference if you are gaming, but your entire computer experience in whole will change while you are doing other tasks.

You can go Z68X-UD3H from GB and it has SSD caching so you can use your 30GB cheap SSD with a larger HDD and get the full benefit of both.

You can also go asus if you like, but i steer clear of lower end MSI boards.

GTX 570 is a very nice card, so is teh ATI card, id take nvidia personally, but you get more bang for your buck with ATI/AMD
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Originally Posted by Dieux Soldat View Post
Looks pretty nice. Case is personal choice but TJ07 air flow is a little low on intake.

Motherboard is a very important component! Do not gimp out in this category. Lately GIGABYTE and ASUS seem to have good ratings. I would actually buy the latest Z68 series. It offers better functions and two new amazing features; Quick Sync and SSD Caching!

RAM is personal choice also but the Vengeance and RipjawsX series have nice heat spreaders.

For GPU, I'd get AMD for RPG/MMO. For FPS, I would go with nVidia.

30GB SSD to me is a waste of money. Might as well get a nice Caviar Black RAID. A 30GB is like buying one just to have one.

Not going to comment on what you've bought already. All aesthetics are personal so have fun with those lights!

Good Luck and Have Fun Man!
Jason "Dieux Soldat" Xiao
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm going for the GTX 570. Mostly because it's £30 cheaper. I'm having trouble finding a plexi full cover block for it though. The only one I could find had this strange plate covering half of it >.<

About the SSD, I'm going for a 64GB one now. To put my docs/music/office/OS/music player/firefox/etc on it.

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Originally Posted by Sin0822 View Post
SSD is required, even 30GB will suffice, running an OS off a HDD is like being in the stone age, except you wont notice a difference if you are gaming, but your entire computer experience in whole will change while you are doing other tasks.

You can go Z68X-UD3H from GB and it has SSD caching so you can use your 30GB cheap SSD with a larger HDD and get the full benefit of both.

You can also go asus if you like, but i steer clear of lower end MSI boards.

GTX 570 is a very nice card, so is teh ATI card, id take nvidia personally, but you get more bang for your buck with ATI/AMD
I'm having a bit of trouble finding reviews as there are so many motherboards that have just hit the market. I only went with the GD55/53 as it was recommended in bit-tech and was specifically mentioned to run with really cool chipsets. This is a bit of an issue as I don't plan to have much (if any) fans in the top of the case, with the exception of possible a RAM cooler.

The other issue I have (I may be completely off here) is that the GD55 runs with full bandwith in Xfire/SLI where as the GB model doesn't. I might be completely wrong here but just looking at the specs on SCAN & a quick review says it defaults down to x8. This might happen with all Xfire as I've never done it but I do plan to add another card in a year or two so this is important.

Any other recommendation for motherboards would be great. Budget is around £150. Primary focus is gaming/Xfire/Overclocking performance.

Oh, and updated the OP with some adjustments.
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the SLi thing happens on both boards, PCh P67 only has 16x lanes of PCi-E. Its going to be 8x/8x on every board at best without an NF200 chipset. i review moboss so i know a thing or two about them.

Anyways the MSI boards are ok, none of the boards run particularly hot, but if you get one with less phases it will run hot on the heatsink around the phases. A 5ghz OC will yield about 180watts output.

Honestly I have a P67A-GD65 if you want it ill sell it to you for $100.
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Originally Posted by Sin0822 View Post
the SLi thing happens on both boards, PCh P67 only has 16x lanes of PCi-E. Its going to be 8x/8x on every board at best without an NF200 chipset. i review moboss so i know a thing or two about them.

Anyways the MSI boards are ok, none of the boards run particularly hot, but if you get one with less phases it will run hot on the heatsink around the phases. A 5ghz OC will yield about 180watts output.

Honestly I have a P67A-GD65 if you want it ill sell it to you for $100.
Sorry if I came across as doubting you, I'm just a bit lost on motherboards at the moment.

I thought that might have been the case with the 8x/8x but wasn't too sure. I had another look at the UD3P and it says it can only run 1333mhz DDR3, this seems a little odd. The UD4P seems to run much higher frequencies. While this isn't much of an issue for overclocking ('cause you only really touch the CPU multiplier) I didn't really want to go below 1600 for gaming purposes. The UD4P is a little higher than I wanted to pay but I would if it's a much better motherboard.

EDIT: I've read about the SSD cacheing system and I'm not sure I'd actually use it. Since I'm using a 64GB HDD, I think I'd rather manage it myself. That way I can control what programs/docs go on there. I'd probably be running my docs/music/office/OS/music player/firefox. Based on that, is it worth me going for the Z68? If not, the P67 UD4P is £20 cheaper. Why the initial advise to stay away from the MSI btw? It's got great reviews :S
Edited by RollerBallMouse - 6/3/11 at 11:31pm
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Sorry if I came across as doubting you, I'm just a bit lost on motherboards at the moment.

I thought that might have been the case with the 8x/8x but wasn't too sure. I had another look at the UD3P and it says it can only run 1333mhz DDR3, this seems a little odd. The UD4P seems to run much higher frequencies. While this isn't much of an issue for overclocking ('cause you only really touch the CPU multiplier) I didn't really want to go below 1600 for gaming purposes. The UD4P is a little higher than I wanted to pay but I would if it's a much better motherboard.

EDIT: I've read about the SSD cacheing system and I'm not sure I'd actually use it. Since I'm using a 64GB HDD, I think I'd rather manage it myself. That way I can control what programs/docs go on there. I'd probably be running my docs/music/office/OS/music player/firefox. Based on that, is it worth me going for the Z68? If not, the P67 UD4P is £20 cheaper. Why the initial advise to stay away from the MSI btw? It's got great reviews :S
that 1333mhz thing is not true every P67 board can OC to 2133mhz so no worries there, they are just stating Intel's specs.

SSD cahcing is good if you have a small fast SSD, otherwise a SSD alone is faster.
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that 1333mhz thing is not true every P67 board can OC to 2133mhz so no worries there, they are just stating Intel's specs.

SSD cahcing is good if you have a small fast SSD, otherwise a SSD alone is faster.
I see. What do you think about the ASROCK Z68 Extreme4?
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I wouldn't use anyting but distilled water and a siver coil in my loop, it will stain your blocks and it's a pain in the arse to clean it all up.

BTW I have a P67 mobo for sale here:
http://www.overclock.net/main-compon...e-rev-3-a.html
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I see. What do you think about the ASROCK Z68 Extreme4?
its a good board people say, idk personally id take the offer below
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I wouldn't use anyting but distilled water and a siver coil in my loop, it will stain your blocks and it's a pain in the arse to clean it all up.

BTW I have a P67 mobo for sale here:
http://www.overclock.net/main-compon...e-rev-3-a.html
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