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A GPU that exhausts the heat internally will make hardly any difference compared to external exhaust in a HAF X.

Make your H70 take air from inside the case and expel outside the case. Since the heat from the radiator will be warmer than the air outside. So while the air you are drawing from outside the case may be cooler than inside the case (if you get an interal exhaust GPU like the Phantom), the heat from the radiator getting dumped back into your case will be considerably hotter than the air outside the case thus increasing CPU temps.

So make the H70 exhaust so you take the slightly warmer air from inside the case (if you got the phantom or some other interal exhaust GPU cooling solution) and dump the hot air from the rad outside the case. This will be most beneficial to CPU temps.

The Gainward phantom or Palit get my vote. They are both the same company (sort of) and they make quality products. As someone else mentioned, just look at benchmarks and see how many people are using Gainward and Palit GPU's. Too often people snub a manufacturer because the name isn't as widely known as say EVGA or ASUS. In reality, they are all exactly the same under the hood, the Gainward Phantom and Palit have decent custom cooling solutions, the EVGA uses reference cooling. Yes, EVGA has a lifetime warranty and the prestige of the name but in reality, they are exactly the same as the Gainward and Palit just more expensive and worst cooling efficiency.

I'm not trying to tell you to get the Gainward or Palit. Simply pointing out that paying for the name on the box is stupid since at the end of the day, they are exactly the same product.

The Gainward Phantom GTX580 3GB at the same clocks as the EVGA GTX580 3GB will perform EXACTLY the same and run cooler. So why pay more just so you can say you have an "EVGA"?

Its the same when it comes to CPU's. Why pay another $50 more for the i7 950 and the extra 300 or 400MHz when you can get an i7 930 for less and other than the core clock it is exactly the same. You can pretty much OC the 930 to the 950 clocks without any voltage increase in most cases, so you are saving $50 and essentially getting the exact same product. The only difference is the CPU model number (930 vs 950). Its the same principal in this case, why pay more for the same product when you can get it cheaper? There is no performance difference between any of them.
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Is the MSI GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme edition 3GB for sale anywhere yet?
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Originally Posted by DMac84;13723485 
Is the MSI GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme edition 3GB for sale anywhere yet?

Not yet I don't think

On its way shortly though
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Originally Posted by Vengeance47;13723468 
A GPU that exhausts the heat internally will make hardly any difference compared to external exhaust in a HAF X.

Make your H70 take air from inside the case and expel outside the case. Since the heat from the radiator will be warmer than the air outside. So while the air you are drawing from outside the case may be cooler than inside the case (if you get an interal exhaust GPU like the Phantom), the heat from the radiator getting dumped back into your case will be considerably hotter than the air outside the case thus increasing CPU temps.

So make the H70 exhaust so you take the slightly warmer air from inside the case (if you got the phantom or some other interal exhaust GPU cooling solution) and dump the hot air from the rad outside the case. This will be most beneficial to CPU temps.

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Vengeance, what you said about the orientation of the radiator is incorrect, having it set to intake cool air and exhaust hot air in the case will increase the case temperatures but the CPU will be cooler because of it. The important aspect of the CPU cooling with a radiator is the temperatures going through the radiator not the temperature of the air around the socket. The increase in case temperatures will also be very very small because of the fact he has two huge top exhausts ready to expel the hot air from the H70 radiator. OP, like I said your picture is just about ideal for the setup you are considering.
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Originally Posted by Vengeance47;13723499 
Not yet I don't think

On its way shortly though

Sigh. I wants me 2 of them <3
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