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I hate negativity! (Negative Remark LOL)

It looks like a decent setup to be quite honest. You underestimate that Hyper 212+ though. They can do 4.8GHz most of the time with a good push/pull setup and temps would not be terrible either, 70-80C. Good thermal paste is needed too.

I do not know what you are thinking when you are searching for the right parts. Is there a budget in mind? I loved my Asus P8P67 Pro and it really is solid for everything. It is a good overclocker and has a lot of great features. I liked the new bios!

If I were to suggest anything that would be a sideways move cost wise, it would be to opt for G.Skill RAM rated at 1.5v. You can push these chips pretty hard and you would have a little room to oc the sticks by pushing 1.65v through them.

F3 is a great spinner, but I have seen a lot of F3 failures recently and never was thrilled about Samsung HD's, however many people love them. I think WD Black is more reliable, more quiet, and could last longer. Personally, I am hooked on SSD's! Had one, sold it, got a spinner, hated something I once loved, back to SSD. I think you will be happy with a spinner though. I just multi-task a lot and really need something that can do it.

Your case, it is nice, but I am skeptical about it's airflow. It seems like more of a server case with all those HD bays. Those bays are going to restrict the 2 front fans airflow horribly. You have one exhaust and one GPU fan slot that does not have a fan. With a big heatsink and the heat an oc'd 2500K is going to generate, I feel you should seek something with a better side fan setup and maybe even top fans. Your pricepoint on this item has much better choices.

Lastly, I am not a PSU guru! I like Seasonic and Corsair myself. I believe Coolermaster may be a bad choice, but let's see some other opinions. I do feel 850 will be plenty enough though! Even if you oc everything!
Thanks for your input!

Regarding the case, the R3 has:

* Fan controller for 3 fans included
* 1 rear Fractal Design 120mm @ 1350rpm included
* 1 front Fractal Design 120mm @ 1350rpm included
* 1 front 120mm fan (optional)
* 1 bottom 120mm/140mm fan (optional)
* 1 side panel 120mm/140mm fan (optional)
* 2 top 120mm/140mm fan (optional)

I'm personally undecided between the R3 and XL (The full tower model) as they are the same price...
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It's mainly a gaming PC. Probably a bit of programming, but that's hardly taxing. If I was to order what I require of this PC, it would be:

1. Gaming (90% of the reason I'm building, as my laptop in my sig covers about everything else)
2. Light Web Browsing, Video Playback, Music Playback
3. Light Programming (Java, C#, mostly command line stuff, no 3D etc)

I'll probably still use my laptop in my sig for everyday browsing from bed/around the house etc.
I see. If it's pure gaming, I have a few options for you.
Games I'm using as examples include FPS, RPG & RTS genres. Crysis, Battlefield, Dragon Age, Witcher, Starcraft and not to mention the Call of Duty franchise.

Case 1 - Single display
560Ti SLI + 8GB(4gbx2) ram instead of 4gb
Games will all be easy to max. With exception of Witcher's Ubersampling of which I heard is the new performance killer. The extra 4gb of ram will go a long way for you as you'll be able to tab in/out easily and take advantage of anisotropic filtering & other texture heavy games - they will render much, much faster.
As for the future, you will no doubt be able to max under Dx9 & Dx10 settings. However 560Tis even in SLI are not capable of handling certain Dx11 features - unless you're not bothered by minor details.

Case 2 - Triple display
560Ti SLI with 1.5-2gb vram + 8gb ram as well
Maxing out is questionable. FPS will be able to be maxed. RTS will probably be played in single display so no changes there. However RPGs will have to be tuned down a bit to prevent unstable framerate.
This setup will not be able to run Dx11 maxed for future games either. Meaning if there is High, Ultra High & Extreme preset, you will probably be settling for Ultra High with several features tuned down.

Case 3 - I can run anything
580 SLI + 8(4gbx2)-12(4gbx3) ram
Self-explanatory. Ram size depends on your motherboard. Dual channel, get 8gb. Triple channel, get 12gb.


Ram
Do note that I've not settled for your previous 4gb idea as I have recently upgraded from 4-8gb and the performance difference is noticeable and worth it. Ram isn't expensive after all.
Motherboard
Another change I will make is your motherboard. The new z68 chipset. Without a doubt, new technology, and new technology can't go wrong. Opens you up for future upgrades & additional features. z68 offers quicker video encoding, ssd caching (very, very important for ssd users, and I predict you will be moving up to ssds sooner or later), to name a few. It's simply a better choice seeing you're able to put 580s into your budget.
Hard Drive
Seagate Momentus XT (: Crossbreed between SSD's speed & HDD's space. Not expensive either. This will improve overall computer speed. Read/writes, load times, all faster.
Edited by Dust - 5/31/11 at 2:07pm
    
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Thanks for your input!

Regarding the case, the R3 has:

* Fan controller for 3 fans included
* 1 rear Fractal Design 120mm @ 1350rpm included
* 1 front Fractal Design 120mm @ 1350rpm included
* 1 front 120mm fan (optional)
* 1 bottom 120mm/140mm fan (optional)
* 1 side panel 120mm/140mm fan (optional)
* 2 top 120mm/140mm fan (optional)

I'm personally undecided between the R3 and XL (The full tower model) as they are the same price...
I edited the case comments. I like the case. Full tower may accomidate a future watercooling solution better than the Mid. ;-)
 
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I suggest SLI 560Ti's if gaming on 1x monitor at 1920x1080, and save your Penny's for Kelper when it hits the market (next jump in architecture)

If gaming at 3x monitors at 5760x1080 then you can settle for the 560Ti's (but get the 2gb version) as they will run the games, but 2x 580 3GB would be ideal at this resolution.
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Motherboard
Another change I will make is your motherboard. The new x58 chipset has better performance for SLI-ed cards & several new features as well (research yourself ). It's simply a better choice seeing you are able to put 580s into your budget.
I think your geting X58 and Z68 chipset confused, triple dims died with X58/1366.
besides where talking Socket 1155 here so that's p67 or z68.

@ OP get what your heart tells you for the gpu's either will last a long time, but if you can afford sli 580's then by means go overkill.
    
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I think your geting X58 and Z68 chipset confused, triple dims died with X58/1366.
besides where talking Socket 1155 here so that's p67 or z68.
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No problem going for 580's now. Its not like they will be worthless by the time Kepler comes out. My guess is that if I buy 2 580's now for $1k I will probably be able to sell them for $600-700 around the end of the year at least. Then just upgrade to Kepler (or even hang onto the 580's which will be fine for years)....
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My budget allows for either. Paired with a 2500K, and playing at 1080p, which would be the better option?

I know there's no such thing as future proofing, but would 2x 580s last me alot longer in terms of being able to max out games?

Thanks,-SK
The single GTX 580 can handle all the games currently out maxed settings. Though there is no such thing as future proofing like you said at least you can SLI another later down the road.

The GTX 560 SLI is a great option but your in a dead end where you'll have to replace both cards eventually. Still not a bad option either way.

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If I was to go for SLI 580s, what wattage PSU would I be looking at?
Very high qaulity 850 watt GOLD PSU minimum. A mediocore 950 watt SILVER PSU. Or pretty much any 1000 watt BRONZE PSU safely.

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I don't think theres really a comparison here. One setup costs $450 and one costs $1000. Obviously the 580s will smash the 560's. In terms of need at 1080p 560's are fine.
The GTX 580's at least the EVGA ones have started to come down in pricing. $459.00 for each after $30 EVGA rebate. I expect even futher sales as we get closer to Kepler and when Kepler comes out even more so and for a powerful 580 combo. Two GTX 580's SLI will keep you gaming easily until Q4 2012 when Maxwell makes it's debut.

EDIT to Add: It will still beat two GTX 660's SLI anyway, when you upgrade to Kepler due out in November.
     
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At this stage in the life cycle, I d keep the 560 sli and then get the 660 sli, then the 760 sli

Selling each pairing when the new generation comes out. you spend less money this way and are always able to play anything at max

I ve been doing it for a few generations now
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Gtx 580 ftw!!!
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