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Hi guys. OK My best friend has asked me to build him a system to game on and I highly doubt I can do it on his budget of $1000.00 Canadian but I hope you guys can at least help me to either put him in a system that will carry him through till he can upgrade OR maybe convince him to squeeze a few more bucks into the budget. - I CAN salvage some of the parts from his old system... mainly the Hard Drives are decent 7800 RPM for the main drive and 2 storage only drives @5400RPM all between 250-500Gig. SO no need for a HDD at this time. DVDRW is new(er) as well so that's covered. He has a nice 22" Monitor; a good keyboard and mouse... so basically I just need the parts listed below:

Case
Power Supply
Video Card
Motherboard
CPU
RAM

The games he likes to play are:

Crysis
Farcry II
Deadspace
etc...

He also spends a lot of time playing cheesy games like Zooma etc.

I realize it's not likely he'll get a kick-ass gaming system for $1k Canadian, but if I can at least get him into something that has the potential to grow... maybe a board and vid card that can be duel-sli'd later etc.

Also potential to overclock (obviously) is good. For the time being he can use it with stock settings, but come September I'm putting water-blocks on my system so he can then HAVE my Dark Knight.

Any help you guys can provide would be greatly appreciated. My level of tech ability as far as hardware is concerned is limited to assembly (been doing it for near 20 years) my real skills lay in software integration and support so I really need your help figuring out what I should be buying for him.

Also if you could, Please post 2 suggestions... one with the $1000.00 limit and 1 with a $1500.00 limit (Canadian)... so that I might use the second one to convince him to squeeze his wallet a bit harder...

And Thanks in advance guys. I know you'll steer me in the right direction like you did when I made my system (which kicks major ass now BTW - THANKS!!!)

- Tanlith -
post #2 of 11
i5 2500k
P8P67 Pro
4gb gskill ripjaw 1600
Sapphire 6950 1gb or 560 ti TFII ($20 MIR), your choice
1tb wd blue
500w modxstream ($20 MIR)
antec 300
scythe mugen 2 -$40 if you'd use the dark knight.

This would be $1025 at directcanada.com shipped.
Edited by Phoriver - 5/31/11 at 10:39am
post #3 of 11
$1000 is easily enough for a good rig, especially since he has some stuff already. Phoriver's suggestions sound fine to me, but I'd switch the 300 for a Cooler Master HAF 912 and maybe get a slightly more powerful PSU just for future's sake.
post #4 of 11
The 912 is soo narsty!! (IMO lol)
post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 
You know... that's what I love so much about this site. Everyone is so FAST as answering questions

And I really like the idea of the 560 TFII (I have 2 of them in SLI on my system and they're crazy fast! - course having 12 GIG ram helps some too lol)

OK cool I'll have my buddy look over the stuff on the site you mentioned and maybe push him into a bigger PSU (Maybe a 750 like mine)

Thanks so much for the response... I suck SO bad when it comes to hardware it's not even funny!

- Tanlith -
post #6 of 11
i payed $700 for my PC build and i run crysis warhead 1080p max graphics @ 35fps.

NCIX usually has the parts on your door step the next day after ordering for $8 shipping (im in the GTA). So buy from NCIX.

Im running a GTX460 and this one can seriously OC high! One of those OC should play crysis fine at high res. But 2 of them should run 60fps no problem and some nice crysis graphics mods

All those games your mentioned don't require a very strong CPU, im running a amd 955 BE and the only game that i hit a wall with is GTA IV. But a i5-2500k is a killer CPU and i recommend that because you will truly future proof yourself. Case wise, the HAF 912 is the greatest quality for the price, pictures don't do justice you need to see cases in person. I recommend NCIX with all your purchases and you can price match anything anyways.

For PSU i would recommend antec, a tp-650 is $100 -$30 MIR at Canadacomputers, has very good ripple suppression, very reputable people on the forums will vouch for that (they recommended it to me in the first place).

so basically CPU - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=61150&...Bundle%20Deals

GPU (preferably x2)- http://ncix.com/products/?sku=54624&...SI%2FMicroStar

PSU - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=56788&...ufacture=Antec

Case- http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&...e=COOLERMASTER

RAM - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=42745&...l&promoid=1322

goodluck with the build.
My System
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8320 Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 Sapphire R9-290X Tri-X 8GB G Skill 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
120GB Intel SSD Windows 8.1 64bit Viewsonic 27" VX2739wm XFX XTR 750W 
Case
HAF 912 
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Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
120GB Intel SSD Windows 8.1 64bit Viewsonic 27" VX2739wm XFX XTR 750W 
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HAF 912 
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post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by 2JZ View Post
i payed $700 for my PC build and i run crysis warhead 1080p max graphics @ 35fps.

NCIX usually has the parts on your door step the next day after ordering for $8 shipping (im in the GTA). So buy from NCIX.... etc...


Hrmmm - How does that Gigabyte board compare to the Asus? I glanced at the specs but again - Hardware tech talk is all greek to me XD

- Tanlith -
post #8 of 11
ASUS GeForce GTX 560 Dcii OC 850MHZ 1GB $195.62
Corsair TX750 V2 750W $104.69
Coolermaster Haf 912 $54.63
Crucial RealSSD C300 64GB $115.24
G.SKILL Ripjaws X 2x4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 $75.95
Intel Core i5 2500K $220.25
Gigabyte P67A-UD4-B3 $178.70


Total: $945.08

The Stock cooler is good for 4.2ghz, then if you push it higher you can use your Dark Knight
I haven't included a HDD, as you said you had many to use for storage, but i have the C300 SSD there for the OS and a few programs.
Plenty of ram.
Motherboard supports SLI with 2 cards that can be 3 slots wide.
Edited by Ishinomori - 5/31/11 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by Tanlith View Post
Hrmmm - How does that Gigabyte board compare to the Asus? I glanced at the specs but again - Hardware tech talk is all greek to me XD

- Tanlith -
I have no idea about that gigabyte i showed you XD. i know only the AMD gigabyte boards. But i can tell you gigabyte is VERY good quality, i used to be a asus only guy but im so happy i switched over. Just make sure you got a good chipset and atleast 2 pci-e x16 slots.

edit -- dont get that gigabyte board just go to the intel mobo forums, getting a good mobo is important.

**i suggest to post in the Intel motherboard section on which board to get for a i5 2500k they can really help you.

for GPU actually he should choose this -- http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60642&...SI%2FMicroStar + look at all those awesome free games

GTX560 ti is better for future proofing, if any gpu bottlenecks down the road just buy another one!
But im confident just one will suffice for now! Just stock clocks is 40fps on his size monitor, but overclocked you should see LOWS of 50fps and over 60fps. (I dont see why he wouldn't get even more!)

And look at the OC capabilities, this a seriously good card! http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/M...ozr_II/26.html

On that tiny monitor, he can run crysis maxed out no problem, especially overclocked. I suggest to buy one of these cards while they are still on a great deal, and just buy a bigger monitor instead.

If you decide GTX560 ti (which you should) for PSU i would say to use http://ncix.com/products/?sku=56789&...ufacture=Antec

I wouldn't recommend that Corsair suggested above, i bought it at first and people in the power supply section told me to stay away from it and i returned it. The TX series aint all that great for the money, a Antec is better (only problem from antec is coilwhine is frequent among some of their PSUs, so PSU might make funny noises at random times)

you need the extra watts for SLI and for OC. If you buy a 2500k i would suggest to OC it. GPU is so easy to OC just use MSI afterburner.

Don't forget you will need fans! The HAF 912 provides great cooling and two 200mm Cooler Master fans would work great in the front and on the top. In my setup i bought two 120mm fans in the front, when i should of bought just one large one in the front.

200mm fan - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=52544&...e=COOLERMASTER

120mm fan - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=54352&...e=COOLERMASTER

--- to see the HAF 912 look at mine here http://www.overclock.net/computer-ca...-everyone.html

-- i didn't care how mine looked inside so i didn't paint it, i just moved all the cables behind the motherboard for maximum airflow, great case its never more than room temperature, ever (i have a temperature reader for my room temperature and case temperature)


** lastly for NCIX, don't forget to google the product your going to buy and add Canada to the word i.e. HAF 912 Canada -- shopbot , canadapost and other websites will fetch prices from online retailers all across Canada! Then see if there is a cheaper price, if so, on the NCIX cart click price match and include the link of the place you found it cheaper.
Edited by 2JZ - 5/31/11 at 2:12pm
My System
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8320 Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 Sapphire R9-290X Tri-X 8GB G Skill 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
120GB Intel SSD Windows 8.1 64bit Viewsonic 27" VX2739wm XFX XTR 750W 
Case
HAF 912 
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Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
120GB Intel SSD Windows 8.1 64bit Viewsonic 27" VX2739wm XFX XTR 750W 
Case
HAF 912 
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$1000 build:
cpu- i5 2500k
mobo- gigabyte z68x ud3p/ud3h
ram- 8gb gskill ripjawsX
gpu- sapphire hd6950 2gb
pc case- haf 922
psu- corsair tx750 v2
hdd- samsung sprinpoint f3 1tb
$1500 build:
cpu- i5 2500k
mobo- asus p8z68v pro
ram- 8gb gskill ripjawsX
gpu- 2x sapphire hd6950 2gb cross fire
pc case- haf 932
psu- corsair hx750/850
ssd- crucial c300 64gb
hdd- samsung sprinpoint F3 1tb
Hope you like my suggestion.
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Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 HP dvd1260 Zalman CNPS 9900 NT Windows7 Ultimate 64bit SP1 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung SyncMaster P2250 21.5" 1920x1080 Logitech G105 Corsair gs600 80+ Bronze Corsair Carbide 400R 
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Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 HP dvd1260 Zalman CNPS 9900 NT Windows7 Ultimate 64bit SP1 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung SyncMaster P2250 21.5" 1920x1080 Logitech G105 Corsair gs600 80+ Bronze Corsair Carbide 400R 
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Razer Spectre Starcraft II  Razer Goliathus Dragon AgeII Edition (speed) 
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