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[Anand] Ivy Bridge: A Tick+ Laptops of the future will be TDP Overclockable

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/4378/i...nfigurable-tdp
With Haswell Intel already committed to dropping notebook TDPs from 35 - 45W down to the 10 - 20W range:


As a result you get thinner notebooks, but you do sacrifice peak performance. Intel doesn't want to make that tradeoff, so Ivy Bridge will be the first Intel CPU to introduce configurable TDP.

Ivy Bridge turbo won't just run up to the hard limits of your TDP, but it'll be able to exceed that TDP significantly (Intel wouldn't comment on the exact numbers) until the CPU gets too hot. You can imagine a 15W TDP part that could turbo up to 35W TDP for a matter of seconds to make your system feel ultra snappy without requiring a thicker notebook.

The ultra configurable TDP will also have support for a docked mode. So if you take your Ivy Bridge notebook, stick it on a docking station with better cooling you'll be able to exceed the system's TDP consistently. Now your 15W TDP part works like a 35W TDP part because you've given it more cooling.


Configurable TDP will start with Ivy Bridge, but it'll be absolutely necessary (and likely much better) with Haswell. Look at what Turbo did from Nehalem to Lynnfield and I'm guessing we'll see the same sort of transition with Ivy Bridge to Haswell.
Combined with recent news of:
Does "multiple OSes" mean they're running at the same time? AKA: switching from Win7/ChromeOS when docked to Android/WinMobile when undocked? I could see Haswell in tablets with TDP bumping at docks stations.
Bumping up the TDP when docked sounds like a great way to finally kill off desktop PCs for the mainstream non-hardcore gamers.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 5/31/11 at 3:34pm
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Multiple OSes almost certainly means they will support Windows ARM and Windows x86.
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Man, this is so awesome!
   
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Finally, someone is coming out with a CPU that throttles upward!


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Does "multiple OSes" mean they're running at the same time? AKA: switching from Win7/ChromeOS when docked to Android/WinMobile when undocked?
No.... that is software implementation. It most likely means ARM support.
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Very interesting tech. I wish my x200s had something cool like this .
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Multiple OSes almost certainly means they will support Windows ARM and Windows x86.
If it can support Windows ARM that means you can run Android on it, /this in a phone
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If it can support Windows ARM that means you can run Android on it, /this in a phone
Exactly my point. We can already run Linux/Win/OSX on Intel CPUs so why even mention this? Surely it has something to do with merging the smartphone and PC/laptop markets.
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Exactly my point. We can already run Linux/Win/OSX on Intel CPUs so why even mention this? Surely it has something to do with merging the smartphone and PC/laptop markets.
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Multiple OSes almost certainly means they will support Windows ARM and Windows x86.
No, it means that they will support Windows 8 Professional and Windows 8 Professional Ultimate.

Intel is not jumping on the ARM bandwagon. Intel does not make anything where they have to pay for a license, and with ARM, they'd have to pay - so they won't be doing it. For Intel's intended market, weak processors like the ARM are simply too weak and slow, expecially for Ivy Bridge, which is intended to be a mid-performance processor, not some slop that is barely able to single task weak smart phone apps...
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No, it means that they will support Windows 8 Professional and Windows 8 Professional Ultimate.

Intel is not jumping on the ARM bandwagon. Intel does not make anything where they have to pay for a license, and with ARM, they'd have to pay - so they won't be doing it. For Intel's intended market, weak processors like the ARM are simply too weak and slow, expecially for Ivy Bridge, which is intended to be a mid-performance processor, not some slop that is barely able to single task weak smart phone apps...
However, note that Intel has not mentioned "support for multiple OSes" before as it is assumed. Take that combined that is is a prepared PR presentation. Intel intentionally made that statement with a possibility hinting of something? You're right... it probably is not ARMs but what do they mean by that statement? Windows, Linux, and OSX are already assumed.

Don't be so fast to discount ARM. By the time Haswell launches, we will see at least quad-core 2GHz+ ARM-based processors. ARM performance is growing faster than x86 performance.
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