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Note: Please don't start a flame war about AMD vs Intel in this thread. This is strictly for my information and I need unbiased opinions about what to get here.

Ok so...I've been tweaking my Newegg wishlists for a long time and I've decided that tonight is the night to make the decision. I am about to get a job at a grocery store and I want to build my new computer now. I have two distinct courses of action to go with. Both builds have the same case, PSU, fans, heatsink, etc.

PLAN #1 - AMD X6 1090T, ASRock 870 Extreme3, EVGA GTX 560 (non-ti) SC, 4GB DDR3 1600 CS8 RAM. PRICE - About $800.
This was originally my backup build in case I did not get enough money, but lo and behold, I got enough. The processor will be overclocked to somewhere above 3.6ghz and the video card is already overclocked, although I may push it a little higher. The motherboard is very good for only 90 dollars and I know for sure that it will provide for my needs; my friend purchased the same board with a setup almost exactly like this one and it's working just fine for him.

PLAN #2 - Intel Core i5-2500k, ASRock P67 Extreme4, EVGA GTX 560 Ti SC, 8GB DDR3 1600 CS9 RAM. PRICE - About $1014.
This was the build I was going to get in case I got more money, but so far I have not the money to get this build. The i5 overclocks neatly to 4.5ghz on air cooling, which is extremely convenient since you only have to up the voltage / multiplier to do so, and it beats the 1090T in many ways. The graphic card is a little better than the non-Ti version of the GTX560, and it outputs better framerates and stuff; however, I don't think that I'll be using the full potential of it, so getting the non-Ti 560 would be fine for me. This is only for upgrade purposes. An extra 4GB of RAM would also help a bit.

Here's why I'm getting such a headache about this: I don't know if it's really worth it going an extra 200 bucks for the better processor and video card. I'm going to be doing light 720p video editing in Sony Vegas, and both processors do well in that area. The i5 is better, obviously, but is it really worth going with the 1014 dollar build for the speed boost? I'm upgrading from an AMD Turion X2 Mobile processor, so either one is going to be a huge boost from what I'm using now. I'm also going to be doing some mid-level to intensive gaming, and I don't mind turning a few settings from "Extreme" to "High" in order to get an FPS boost. My mindset for a playable FPS is 30, so I don't NEED that solid 60+fps to be happy. If I saved money on the video card, would it hurt me that much? Also I can always upgrade the RAM in the future so that's not much of a problem here.

So here's the deal: Either go all out now and get the 800 dollar computer, or wait to see if I get a job and get the 1014 dollar one. I've been waiting for a very long time to build my computer, so waiting even another week is going to kill me. I'm on summer break and I have nothing to do, so I want to build my computer ASAP. Should I splurge now, or should I wait and get the more expensive build? And is it really worth the extra 200 dollars?

Please reply with honest opinions. I want to make this decision tonight.
Edited by XHolyPuffX - 5/31/11 at 6:43pm
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post #2 of 55
The 2500k will be noticeably faster.
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post #3 of 55
The Intel build will be WAY faster, seriously, if you can afford it, go Intel.
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My vote is for the 2500k (ignore my sig rig ).
Seriously though, I'd vote for the more expensive setup if for nothing at all, it's sheer performance(and overclockability)
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Phenom IIs are clock for clock about the same/slower than Core2Quad (meanwhile Intel has Nehalem, Lynnfield, Gulftown, Sandy Bridge etc... which are all considerably faster). The only benefit you get is 6 cores, but in single threaded applications Phenom II is far inferior to Sandy Bridge. I would not by any means build a 1090T system at this point.

My advice: wait until Bulldozer releases. At this later point, hopefully you saved up a few extra dollars and then you can either go with Bulldozer or Sandy Bridge comfortably depending on the price and performance. If you really want to build one now, which I strongly recommend against doing, you could definitely spend less than $1050 on a 2500k rig.
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The question isn't which one is faster, the question is if it's really worth paying another 200+ for. I'm going to be happy either way. Right now I have 806 in my bank account and I can buy the AMD build in a few mouse clicks. If I wait to get my job and get the i5 one, the AMD $20 promo code might be expired and I will have to pay even more for the AMD build. If I don't get the job by June 6 then I will be stuck with 800 and I'll have to pay more for the backup build.

If I bought the AMD build, would it really be that much worse than the Intel one for $250 less is what I'm asking. Actually...here's a thought. If any of you can put me together an i5-2500k gaming build that costs $850 and will perform considerably faster than the AMD build I mentioned above, I will definitely consider getting it tonight.
Edited by XHolyPuffX - 5/31/11 at 5:28pm
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Originally Posted by XHolyPuffX View Post
The question isn't which one is faster, the question is if it's really worth paying another 200+ for. I'm going to be happy either way. Right now I have 806 in my bank account and I can buy the AMD build in a few mouse clicks. If I wait to get my job and get the i5 one, the AMD $20 promo code might be expired and I will have to pay even more for the AMD build.

If I bought the AMD build, would it really be that much worse than the Intel one for $250 less is what I'm asking.
Buying Phenom II architecture in 2011 isn't really a good idea IMO. Unless all of your applications are multithreaded and you're doing rendering and stuff then it might be okay. But if you play games and use more generalized applications, 2500k is going to be considerably, considerably faster especially considering the high overclocking results these 32nm chips are doing. If you're absolutely set on spending $800 on a rig right at this moment, you could even go socket 1156 and still have a faster computer. But like I said in my previous post, you can definitely trim down that projected $1050 cost for a Sandy Bridge rig with swapping out some parts. Your best bet would still be waiting for Bulldozer since it's very close on the horizon.
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Why are you comparing these unfairly? On the 2500k build you have 4 more gigs of RAM, and a better graphics card.

As far as my vote, the 2500k any day.
    
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I can't wait any longer than this Saturday. I know it sounds hasty but this has been eating away at my brain for the past two weeks ever since I started getting grad money.


I edited my previous post but I'll go ahead and copy paste the stuff I inserted:

If I wait to get my job and get the i5 one, the AMD $20 promo code might be expired and I will have to pay even more for the AMD build. If I don't get the job by June 6 then I will be stuck with 800 and I'll have to pay more for the backup build.

If I bought the AMD build, would it really be that much worse than the Intel one for $250 less is what I'm asking. Actually...here's a thought. If any of you can put me together an i5-2500k gaming build that costs $850 and will perform considerably faster than the AMD build I mentioned above, I will definitely consider getting it tonight.

The point is: I don't have $1050 right this moment to upgrade to that other build. I don't know about you guys, but I have no income at the moment and I cannot, at this very moment, afford the $1050 rig. I'd get it right now if I had the dough, but I don't. That's why I made this thread.
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What parts are you salvaging? (if any)
    
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