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Really, time to put your e-peens away, stop acting like childish 12 year olds. Time to grow up guys.

This forum is supposed to be a place where enthusiasts can come and relax, share news, have a good time. Not to go at each other's throats with probably the dumbest argument I've ever seen on this forum since I've been here.

The fact that you must argue about argument shows that you are just arguing to argue now.
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Originally Posted by Jacka View Post
Better to delay a product than rush it to market and end up having to do a recall.
Yes ,putting an unfinished product on the market would have killed the Bulldozer for the rest of it s existence.
And it s not AMD-s fault ,it s the Global foundry crap factoryes to be blamed here ,which don t belong to AMD anymore .
It s similar to what Nvidia had with the Fermi stuff.
The fabrication is not yet at the standards needed most probable.
The AMD CPU is ready/finished in my point of view as the chip is ready on paper.
   
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Delays are to be expected with brand new never tried processes, the GTX 400 series was a good example they did finally get the production numbers up and got the product out, although it wouldn't have considered finished. I would rather have AMD get a better product out then have a crappy product with issues, mine as well get it right the first time.
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post #174 of 268
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No, they kept getting deleted because certain AMD fanboys were in total denial about any possibility of a delay and started spewing hate and personal attacks against people for posting news articles confirming it. They even went as far as to call AnandTech and Tom's "trolls" for reporting what ended up being completely accurate news of the delay. No comments from these members so far about AMD's blatant LIE when they promised that "our roadmap has not changed" just days before Computex...
Has it changed? If they present this chip sometime this month then their roadmap is still the same. It may not hit retail this month but they never said it would. Anyways its still going to be at least 8 months before Ivy Bridge, its now going to boost the sales of their 900 series boards, I think it will work out well for them.

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Delays are to be expected with brand new never tried processes, the GTX 400 series was a good example they did finally get the production numbers up and got the product out, although it wouldn't have considered finished. I would rather have AMD get a better product out then have a crappy product with issues, mine as well get it right the first time.
Good thing SB didnt delay and let there loyal customers down, they just threw out a faulty chipset and said we will fix it later.

Intel is big enough they can recover from something like that. AMD would not be able to.
Edited by Chuckclc - 6/1/11 at 9:23am
post #175 of 268
I've been an AMD CPU supporter since the K6 series. However, I have anything against Intel; I simply always root for the underdog (it means better competition, better products, better prices, etc).

Still, I am not going to deny the fact that multiple, independent websites of various legitimacy have made the same exact claim, that Bulldozer has been pushed back until Q3. AMD has shareholders and is thus not going to announce such a bomb without logical timing, so don't rely on them to announce a delay for another week or so either.

That being said: BD is delayed, and while it sucks it's just the way it is. BD is NOT "AMD's Fermi" or "Duke Nukem Forever" or any other sensationalist headline - it is simply delayed because consumer-oriented engineering, relative to most other professions, requires a certain level of perfection if it wishes to succeed in such a dynamic and intense industry.

Basically, everyone needs to relax. AMD fanboys - don't hide in denial but don't also make it sound like the world is over because of a two to three month delay, something that every true enthusiast (of any hobby) is used to anyway. It's a delay, not a second Rapture. Intel fanboys - don't gloat because if it weren't for AMD you would be paying 1.5x the price for the same goods; competition, not ubiquity, is key for the consumer.

As far as me? I am kind of sold on Ivy Bridge, especially thanks to its native USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt support, but if we find in the next year that Thunderbolt will be nothing more than 2011's Firewire then I may switch to the second-gen BD instead.
Edited by Mapex - 6/1/11 at 9:27am
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I don t think they would have had enough chips for the demand anyway ,even if the chips were ready fabrication wise
   
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Has it changed? If they present this chip sometime this month then their roadmap is still the same. It may not hit retail this month but they never said it would. Anyways its still going to be at least 8 months before Ivy Bridge, its now going to boost the sales of their 900 series boards, I think it will work out well for them.



Good thing SB didnt delay and let there loyal customers down, they just threw out a faulty chipset and said we will fix it later.
How is a processor that's not to be released until August going to boost mobo sales today? You can bet they'd be selling a lot more if the processors were actually being retailed as well
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If you read my posts on the other thread you'll see that I am NOT hating on AMD for this delay. They have to release a BD that is competitive with SB and if it isn't they have to delay it. I'm sure that when it is competitive it will be released and everybody will start new flame wars over the benches! All I've ever been interested in is how it compares to SB because that is what's important. It just sucks that we have to wait yet again to find out those results...
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That being said: BD is delayed, and while it sucks it's just the way it is. BD is NOT "AMD's Fermi" or "Duke Nukem Forever" or any other sensationalist headline - it is simply delayed because consumer-oriented engineering, relative to most other professions, requires a certain level of perfection if it wishes to succeed in such a dynamic and intense industry.

Basically, everyone needs to relax. AMD fanboys - don't hide in denial but don't also make it sound like the world is over because of a two to three month delay, something that every true enthusiast (of any hobby) is used to anyway. It's a delay, not a second Rapture. Intel fanboys - don't gloat because if it weren't for AMD you would be paying 1.5x the price for the same goods; competition, not ubiquity, is key for the consumer.
This also means the sandy bridge will keep the price it has now.So it s bad for intelists as well
In the mean time AMD will make some money in the low-end market with those chips intended for laptops and integrated stuff.
   
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everyone knows that BD is AMD's competition for ARM....all previous info released has been nothing but a marketing campaign to spark interest in the product....no one would have listened if they didnt do it that way.
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