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Then why would AMD launch a product that is not inferior to the final product? As I said, if they don't show BD at E3, then it is delayed.
Well it is delayed from the last investor's meeting, when the interim CEO said early summer. My issue is JF was so stalwart on the Q2/Q3 client/server launch. When JF was pressed by other OCN members recently, for a no-bull**** answer, he became a stone-wall.

I know, AMD moved the date to 60-90 days from June, so technically now it's no longer a delay (officially), but that means the launch date has been a moving target from the beginning, which undermines JF's words alot frankly.

E3 isn't far away, so yeah we'll see if they bother releasing anything then.

Also @Kvjavs - I'm digging that AMD icon haha.
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post #202 of 268
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Well it is delayed from the last investor's meeting, when the interim CEO said early summer. My issue is JF was so stalwart on the Q2/Q3 client/server launch. When JF was pressed by other OCN members recently, for a no-bull**** answer, he became a stone-wall.

I know, AMD moved the date to 60-90 days from June, so technically now it's no longer a delay (officially), but that means the launch date has been a moving target from the beginning, which undermines JF's words alot frankly.

E3 isn't far away, so yeah we'll see if they bother releasing anything then.

Also @Kvjavs - I'm digging that AMD icon haha.
From all reports the decision to delay just happened within the last few days. So when asked before i'm sure "officially" they had to use their timeline that they had. I dont think they are allowed to speculate, even if it seems certain, until it is official.
post #203 of 268
Well if they did decide to just delay it in the past few days, I'm sure they wanted to up the performance some more and/or have more available for when it does launch both of which are understandable. They simply want the best product they can offer.
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post #204 of 268
Maybe they are doing this to avoid some flaw impacting performance like the early phenoms?
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But where are the B0 and B1 benchmarks?!
Someone should of make some.
I mean they have made boards that support Bulldozers.There should of been some benchmark over there somewhere.
   
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post #206 of 268
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Well if they did decide to just delay it in the past few days, I'm sure they wanted to up the performance some more and/or have more available for when it does launch both of which are understandable. They simply want the best product they can offer.
Thats exactly my thinking. They cannot afford to hit snags in the road and hit failure after failure against a much bigger rival Intel. Intel can throw out faulty, released too early, chipsets and take a huge financial hit and recover, AMD cannot.
post #207 of 268
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But where are the B0 and B1 benchmarks?!
Someone should of make some.
I mean they have made boards that support Bulldozers.There should of been some benchmark over there somewhere.
Read between the lines.

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The bad news is that those Bulldozer-based chips are still not ready. Processors based on the B0 stepping are in the hands of motherboard manufacturers. But they’re all telling me that performance is nowhere near what they were expecting, and it’ll take another stepping to fix them.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...-am3,2953.html
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Didn't the event happen in Teipei? I believe at the time, they were technically a day ahead of us making it 1 June 2011 over there and thus the slide reflects that.
Directly quoted from the article..

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AMD's press event is still due to go ahead tomorrow - and we'll let you know what the company decides to do with it.
I wish people would read the actual article first..
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I'm quite convinced of the Delay particularly due to the Press Conference. However what this means is that they will need a B2 Stepping. A stepping should require a Month to achieve and then the chips should enter Production in August. Retail availability should be then seen in September.

I'm quite uncertain in the moment being as to what my Overhaul options are. I'm tempted to invest in a 2600K/Maximus IV Extreme/16GB Vengeance however I feel that this delay means that AMD is perfecting Zambezei. AMD is making the effort to make Zambezei competitive and I applaud their effort and thats why I am torn here.
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Why would AMD post benchmarks of B0 and B1 stepping if it isn't performing well? If they did that people would think that is the final product and /troll would commence waiting would be a better idea.
Also, I'm sure Bulldozer is much faster then Phenom II already it's just not where they want it to be at.
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