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But where are the B0 and B1 benchmarks?!
Someone should of make some.
I mean they have made boards that support Bulldozers.There should of been some benchmark over there somewhere.
Dude, if there are benches out there that show SB was killing BD (like this delay would seem to suggest) AMD will have buried them somewhere with Jimmy Hoffa's head in the Bermuda Triangle. Those benches will NEVER see the light of day....
post #212 of 268
Not sure if people on ocn understand speculatikn and rumors vs actual press releases from a company. Oh and launch date does not equal release date in any way shape or form.

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I don't think anybody gives a rat's rear-end about a launch date if you won't actually be able to get your hands on the product for 3 months...
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Delay is better than Recall....
The lack of benches is a concern tho,or any concrete info for that matter.
AMD's APU was no fail tho.....hoping BD is on the same roll
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I've been saying it for a while now, if bulldozer was launching next week, we'd have some sort of performance numbers now. I mean, Intel is fast and has loads of cash, but even they couldn't release a bd countermeasure in a week unless they were already planning to do so. So there would be no reason for AMD to hold back performance numbers unless there was a real problem with performance or a significant delay that gives Intel time to really lay the wood to them. Looks like a little of both, underperformance relative to sb and more time needed to dress the problem.
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Delay is better than Recall....
The lack of benches is a concern tho,or any concrete info for that matter.
AMD's APU was no fail tho.....hoping BD is on the same roll
Yep ,this is what makes me wait with not fear.AMD has done a good chip on paper ,to bad first samples are not properly made.
I like the fact that they will release something properly made ,not putting it on the market before it is 100% ready.

And maybe the new revision will make them be cheaper ?!
   
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I think AMD is going to make absolutely sure BD will at least equal SB before they make it available to the public. They don't want another 2 years of getting their butts kicked by i7's....
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Yep ,this is what makes me wait with not fear.AMD has done a good chip on paper ,to bad first samples are not properly made.
I like the fact that they will release something properly made ,not putting it on the market before it is 100% ready.

And maybe the new revision will make them be cheaper ?!
They can only test so much,no guarantees it wont have issues even with revisions,its new architecture and bound to have teething problems.
A year in the wild will be the test of it.
2 very different approaches to product testing,Intel with the 'break em replace em' and AMD with the 'you cant have it till its ready'...the Intel way is faster but costs more. Microsoft are keen for that method also.
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So my conclusion of the Computex meet was right...early August at best. Now with the slides from the actual meeting gone viral...60-90 days...ouch.

I'm willing to bet that it'll be closer to 90 days with the way things are going and the lack of any sort of legit benches.

I too have a feeling we got an underperforming chip here at this point and AMD will end up continuing to release great price/performance chips, which has been their trend for years now (not a bad thing at all).

Just an opinion.....
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So my conclusion of the Computex meet was right...early August at best. Now with the slides from the actual meeting gone viral...60-90 days...ouch.

1 Month for the B2 Stepping (July) - 30 Days
1 Month for Production (August) - 60 Days
1 Month for Retail Availability (September) - 90 Days
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