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post #261 of 268
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Can you buy Sandy Bridge today? Yes.

Can you buy Bulldozer today? Not so much.
You did realize that we was saying this delay is a bigger deal than the SB recall right...

Anyway, I have to ask you dude what are you trying to accomplish in this thread? I don't think anybody is confused about the greatness of SB (ignoring obvious trolls is best for everybody). But as I said many pages ago, not everybody really wants to overhaul their system for performance that they don't need. People have different reasons for staying with AMD or waiting. People also have reasons for moving to Intel.

I guess I just don't understand all the bickering and, no offence, but you seem to be right in the middle of it. I could understand when you were trying to inform people of a delay, but now that everybody has heard from AMD this thread has become pointless.

All the AMD people need to stop defending themselves so vehemently and feel secure in the decision to wait and all the Intel people need to stop rubbing to awesomeness of sandy in everybody's face.
post #262 of 268
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@JCPUser - The SB Recall is over, it lasted just over a month. We've been waiting for BD, what 2 years? Plus add another 3 months to that.

Read the posts I'm replying to, it's simple as that. If he can dish it out, he can take it. I don't care who he is or where he's been.
I guess I am of the camp the responding to people like him deludes the thread.

Also, you must of misread my post. The other other guy and I were saying the BD delay is a BIGGER problem than the sandy bridge recall, in other words, agreeing with you and the other Intel guys.
post #263 of 268
ahhh I see, sure didn't come out that way. lol.

I want AMD to come through as much as you guys, that's why I waited for BD b4 building my 2nd rig, and disappointed to have to wait longer. Maybe I'm more vocal, because I truly am disappointed in them, and getting impatient by the lack of official info on the matter.

Notice in the presentation they kinda just skimmed over BD?

Intel sure needs the competition, else we're stuck paying those high prices.

The BD delay is definitely worse since people have been on the fence waiting, and if the rumors are true, and the performance just isn't there, I'm wondering how long it will really take to create a new stepping, fab it, and bring it to market. A stepping that is at the very least comparable to SB in every way, high overclocks, and as fast clock for clock at their given price range.

As you know the SB recall was chipset related that got resolved surprisingly quick.

This is a performance boost stepping directly with the chips... 90 days to fix, really?
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There's nothing at all wrong with anybody wanting to wait for BD to come out. Its sure to be an awesome processor (and the new mobos look very tasty). But if you need a first-class, insanely powerful processor right now for not a lot of money SB certainly fits the bill. Its really a great time to be a computer nerd!
post #265 of 268
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The BD delay is definitely worse since people have been on the fence waiting, and if the rumors are true, and the performance just isn't there, I'm wondering how long it will really take to create a new stepping, fab it, and bring it to market. A stepping that is at the very least comparable to SB in every way, high overclocks, and as fast clock for clock at their given price range.

As you know the SB recall was chipset related that got resolved surprisingly quick.

This is a performance boost stepping directly with the chips... 90 days to fix, really?
I've iterated in this thread before. The 90 days stems from the following:


B2 Stepping - July | 30 Days
Manufacturing/Production - August | 60 Days
Launch/Release - GA (Global Availability) - September | 90 Days


90 Days is a worst case scenario. 60 Days is a more likely scenario unless there are further delays that would necessitate revisions in the stepping once more. Revising the stepping is an expensive process and AMD will likely not further revise the stepping beyond B2 once they increase the clock speed to what it should be currently set at.
Edited by 45nm - 6/1/11 at 5:48pm
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Poor amd , they try hard . Will get shut down by ivy bridge cpu's that will be released at the end of this year .

Atleast amd are still in the game , no doubt bulldozer will be an epic cpu but they are just too far behind and BD doesnt even seem exciting anymore knowing theres a faster cpu around the corner from intel .

thats just the way it is , amd are still trying to keep up with SB .. intel are way ahead of that .

hopefully in years to come , amd and intel will be on par .

no fanboy crap here , just fact .
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ahhh I see, sure didn't come out that way. lol.

I want AMD to come through as much as you guys, that's why I waited for BD b4 building my 2nd rig, and disappointed to have to wait longer. Maybe I'm more vocal, because I truly am disappointed in them, and getting impatient by the lack of official info on the matter.

Notice in the presentation they kinda just skimmed over BD?

Intel sure needs the competition, else we're stuck paying those high prices.

The BD delay is definitely worse since people have been on the fence waiting, and if the rumors are true, and the performance just isn't there, I'm wondering how long it will really take to create a new stepping, fab it, and bring it to market. A stepping that is at the very least comparable to SB in every way, high overclocks, and as fast clock for clock at their given price range.

As you know the SB recall was chipset related that got resolved surprisingly quick.

This is a performance boost stepping directly with the chips... 90 days to fix, really?
Lol yeah, they blew right through the bulldozer news. I am hoping that was because llano is going to be released in 2 weeks and bulldozer is 3 long months away.

As for the new stepping, I think we just don't have enough information. When did AMD realize the the B1 stepping was failing at high clock speeds? When did they start whatever actions are required to move to B2? If that started on 6/1 then things may be further delayed, but I am hoping that this process is already in motion.

............

Ugh, I think I used the word "hope" too much. I have already bought all of the parts outside of CPU/board/RAM for my epeen rig, buuuut AMD is failing me right now. I hope they pull this out in August.
Edited by JCPUser - 6/1/11 at 6:09pm
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I've iterated in this thread before. The 90 days stems from the following:


B2 Stepping - July | 30 Days
Manufacturing/Production - August | 60 Days
Launch/Release - GA (Global Availability) - September | 90 Days


90 Days is a worst case scenario. 60 Days is a more likely scenario unless there are further delays that would necessitate revisions in the stepping once more. Revising the stepping is an expensive process and AMD will likely not further revise the stepping beyond B2 once they increase the clock speed to what it should be currently set at.
Look either way its a complete farce at this point. 90 days would be a disaster, they have to get it as close to 60 as possible.

This is looking more and more like the phenom 1 debacle. As others have said, by the time this thing is released will anyone really care?
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