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post #1 of 11
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As I'm typing this it's 12AM and nearly 90F at my place. With every fan on blast my CPU is idling at 44C - if I remove the OC it's still at 38C. I'm considering LC but to me the cost can only be justified if I saw sub-30C temps in this kind of heat... with the OC Is it possible? How much should I expect to invest?

My current setup:

i7 920 @ 3.8GHz with Hyper 212+ (Antec 900 case)
post #2 of 11
easy, I saw a 30*C drop changing to full watercooling from a H50, and thats comparable to a high end air cooler.

oh and my idle temps went from 40*C to 30*C
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Its all about the budget and what you want to achieve.

You can get like a H60, H70, H80, or H100 under $120 that's all good to go out of the box. Or you can get something like the XSPC Rasa 750 RS240 for like $130 and I think its a good first step in WCing.
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Absolutely, my temps dropped big time. GPUs went from 74* loaded to 38*C.

Liquid cooling setups can be put together on a budget, especially if you shop ebay and the classifieds. This all depends on how much you want to cool (GPUs, etc). A system for just the CPU with a block, pump, rad, res, tubing, and fittings will probably run $300 plus. The sky is the limit. I know I won't go back to air cooling, it makes that big of a difference.
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heres what a sub $300 can get you, if you're patient and shop for deals.

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...build-too.html

this offers room to upgrade in the future with more blocks
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Just keep in mind WC can't cool below ambient temps in your house. It just can't and often times people move to WC and are disappointed that it didn't what they thought it would.
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post #7 of 11
Change your cooler's orientation to vertical with the fan drawing air from the drive bays. That's how I have my TX3 set up and I take it the 212+ can do so as well. It will lower your temps because you won't be drawing air form the back of the GPU.
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Thanks for all the input. $300 doesn't sound too bad at all, I'm willing to go up to $500. I'll try to find out what my case's ambient temp is and take it from there.

BTW my 212 was actually vertical a few days ago! I moved the cages around, rotated the cooler, and switched from CM's paste to AS5... Temps remained the same
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I had temps near 88f today and my CPU temp stayed around 33-35c idle.. I did some video conversions too and I didn't see the temps go much past 38c, and this is with my 1090t at 4.0ghz with the northbridge at 2800MHz.

Temperatures are relative when it comes to any cooling solution though.. There are just too many variables when it comes to comparing results.. Thermal paste, ambient temps, fans, case location etc..

I can safely say that I'd feel comfortable running prime95 for 24hrs in the summer weather here. I just wish I had my GPU's under water.
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post #10 of 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by synce View Post
As I'm typing this it's 12AM and nearly 90F at my place. With every fan on blast my CPU is idling at 44C - if I remove the OC it's still at 38C. I'm considering LC but to me the cost can only be justified if I saw sub-30C temps in this kind of heat... with the OC Is it possible? How much should I expect to invest?

My current setup:

i7 920 @ 3.8GHz with Hyper 212+ (Antec 900 case)
Comments:
1. Ambient temperature
As the temperature inside your room (ie ambient temp for your system) is 90F (32C), a stock i7 920 idles at 38C is not unreasonable at all, with Hyper 212+.
And if this 90F comes at 12am, then I can imagine it will be hotter at 1pm or 5pm.

2. You might want to look at both ventilation inside and outside the case.
For inside:
One critical element is your graphics card. The photo is too dark and I do not see it well. Which model? If it dumps heat inside your case, it is almost certain that those hot air will be sucked by the push fan of your 212+ and will go though the heatsink before expelling out (either via case top or via case rear). Obviously, this is no good.
Note: Click User CP at the top and then Edit System to the left to fill in details of your system

For outside:
If your case sits in a tight spot (eg underneath a desk or even worse, inside a cabinet) with bad ventilation around it, all the hot air expelled from the case can get accumulated very quickly in the region and will 'significantly' negatively impact the thermal performance of your system.

These few points must be addressed. If they are not 'solved', going the route of watercooling does not help much. That is, hot air dumped inside case will still go through the radiator, resulting in not-so-pretty temp. Hot air will still accumulate outside and will make the watercooling system not optimally effective.
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