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post #31 of 40
Stock probably wont jump much..and AMD stock won't change much... their stock changes most on Llano and Server announcements it seems as i been following it. its down 0.15 right now but so are most stocks today. FWIW Intel is down 0.16
Edited by ShiftedReality - 6/1/11 at 8:38am
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It's much more logical to vehemently and blindly deny everything....
That's been par for the course so far on OCN.

Well, I hate to say I told ya so (what am I saying? I love it) but .. I told ya so. No BD until late summer. No Q2, no early summer, no chance at all. So much for "no delay at all, we're right on track."

However.. AMD still got my money. I jumped on one of the el-cheapo Phenom II 965s from Newegg for my secondary rig. Hope BD is worth the wait.

Inb4 "but JF-AMD is a server guy, it's ok he's wrong about desktop CPUs"
Edited by pursuinginsanity - 6/1/11 at 1:03pm
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Meh, between this and the lack of any great BD mobos I will probably wait until next year to see what is in the market. That is unless someone comes out with a mobo that isn't so bland. Then I could justify getting BD with only a few months to Intel's next lineup to go.
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Seeing benchmarks would really help my new build choices.
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Seeing benchmarks would really help my new build choices.
Same here, it it weren't for my CHIV I'd have a 2500k by now.
But I feel like I'll regret switching when BD is finally released... But damn I won't wait for september that's for sure. By the end of the month, I'll have enough money to get 2600k + Asus Maximus III, and that's when it will be hard to wait.
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Yeah silicon in Q3. I hope we get some paper at E3 though. Official benchmarks will help ease the pain of waiting.

I don't understand people's obsession for benchmarks. Stand alone Benchmarks are too synthetic and dont mean much for real world performance. Give some gaming av frames and we will see what it really is for us.
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For those who still don't believe:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbIboX36Lhs
Is it 60 or 90 days from now?
Is 90 days the worst case scenario?
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Why? Both run 8 threads maximum and AMD is hoping the twin cores will make up the single thread speed on < 4 threads. It doesn't have to "spank" anything. As long as it is competitive with the 2600k (or other parts) at comparable price points, I'm happy.

Also, excellent point about Llano. That is going to be AMD's bread and butter chip. For all the Bulldozer hype, AMD is looking to make a killing in the mid level market with that chip. CPU+GPU at a decent price, capable of handling most people's home or work computing needs? Sure maybe you and I always scream "MOAR POWER!" but for every one of us, there are at least 10-20 who would be well pleased by the performance of a quad core + DX11 graphics.
DO we have to start this hyperthreading argument AGAIN? It is physically impossible to run 8 threads on a 4 core chip with all of the threads at 100%. The resources don't allow it. This has been beat to death before. BD with 8 true cores running 8 threads can run all the threads at 100%. Period.
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Did they say anything about Bulldozer's performance? I have been awaiting Bulldozer for my video encoding rig for quite a while now, but these constant delays have made me lean towards getting a i7-2600K instead. Will the launch in July-September be a hard or soft launch?
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B0 stepping was under-performing.

B1 stepping can't scale high enough in speed to match i5/i7 "Sandy Bridge" lines.

Expect hard launch in September (worse case) with B2 stepping to correct the issue.

Performance-wise, B1 stepping against Sandy Bridge (clock-for-clock)
=> Bulldozer better in integer performance, but weaker in FPU.
(Comparison Sandy Bridge processor had to be downclocked!)

The weaker FPU is intentional. The plan (since 2007) was to implement Bulldozer in APU form. Where the GPU-based IGP takes on a good chunk of the floating point workload via OpenCL or DirectCompute.

If you can wait. Then wait. If you can't, just go with the i7-2600K.
proof?
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Llano is where the money is. We all knew this coming but it is good that Llano is looking good. Just disappointed that Bulldozer is delayed although i do look forward to picking up a Llano based laptop.
Perfectly agree on this one.AMD is going for the money ,at least for the moment.
They are not quite full of money right now .
Keep in mind that a lot of Phenom 2 CPU-s are still in stocks.They also need to get rid of those as well and optimize the costs.
   
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