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post #11 of 44
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Originally Posted by Boyboyd View Post
I went from air to water and i think it was worth the money i spent. Obviously it has its pros and cons

Pros:
Cooler
Quieter
More room for overclock

Cons:
Cost
The possibility of a leak*

*Probably the same, if not lower, than the risk of your heavy CPU cooler snapping the CPU socket away from the rest of the motherboard.



No... Just no.
Edited by Cyph3r - 6/1/11 at 4:55am
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post #12 of 44
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Originally Posted by Cyph3r View Post
No... Just no.
This just in:

Watercoolers think it's worth it
Air coolers don't think it's worth it
H50 users think you should go for a middle ground

Wow, never saw this coming...
post #13 of 44
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Originally Posted by Boyboyd View Post
This just in:

Watercoolers think it's worth it
Air coolers don't think it's worth it
H50 users think you should go for a middle ground

Wow, never saw this coming...
All I am saying is, I have been on all sides of the road. I had a Big Typhoon back in the day (939 days) and into my C2Q days as well. Then I went full WCing, then now to my H50, which I find to be very nice. But if I was to replace my H50, it would be with a A70 rifle cooler or something of that nature. With the new chips coming out at such low power specs, WCing is becoming more and more not needed.
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post #14 of 44
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Originally Posted by Boyboyd View Post
This just in:

Watercoolers think it's worth it
Air coolers don't think it's worth it
H50 users think you should go for a middle ground

Wow, never saw this coming...
Veddy true.
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post #15 of 44
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Not really. I had a full loop and I really didn't see much differences. My full loop consisted of;

Swifty MCR320
Swifty MCR220
Swifty MCP355 w/XSPC top
Swifty GTZ
Swifty MCW60
Swifty MCRES V2

I ran pretty cool, but to be honest, compared to my H50 (push/pull) and my AXP combo, I am running about the same as far as noise/speed. Plus its a ton cheaper and less maintenance, and yes I had leaks, everyone has leaks I don't care what anyone tells you, everyone gets them at one point in time.
I agree with Blue. Sure, it was fun assembling it and it makes your rig look awesome but I'd rather switch back to air. The temps aren't stellar compared to air or an all-in one cooler.
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post #16 of 44
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Originally Posted by Cyph3r View Post
?

No, I think its worth it.

But the comment you made. Wow. You went full retard posting that.
The chance of your CPU cooler snapping your board is rare right? So are leaks.

Unless you're careless. That's all i'm saying.
post #17 of 44
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This just in:

Watercoolers think it's worth it
Air coolers don't think it's worth it
H50 users think you should go for a middle ground

Wow, never saw this coming...
Lol.^^

If you can afford it as part of your build and can plan for it, it is a completely justifiable cost with benefits that carry on into the rig's future.

It is worth it, but it isn't necessary. 6870's and 560Ti's can run all the games out there, but if you can find a way to pay for it, you are probably going to feel good about a 580 or 6970 upgrade.
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post #18 of 44
If your reason to watercool is to lower temps and increase overclockability then i think you're in for a disappointment. (Depending on your hardware)

Why? well i think the newer hardware runs alot cooler so you're more likely going to hit walls due to limitations of the hardware itself, not limitations caused by heat output - which back in lga775 days, the thermal wall was often the first obstacle.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe air cooling on most SB platforms is more then adequate evne for overclocking. If you're going watercooling to increase clocks on a SB platform, i doubt you'd be happy.

HOWEVER:

Watercooling offers more control over where heat goes (via placement of radiators) and obviously improves temps if they're well placed - nevermind the fact that water will shift the heat quicker.

Apart from that, it's also alot of fun, and makes a rig look very nice:


I don't believe watercooling is any quieter. In fact i'd argue it's noiser as you're bound to need more fans to cool each radiator you use. In the end though, it's noise level is down to you.

Also, in my opinion i think watercooling components such as harddrives, memory, and chipset(s) are a waste of money and unnecessary. It would also make upgrading a more time consuming and expensive process.

CPU and GPU blocks (Ideally with universal brackets to allow for future upgrades) are all you'll need. Oh, and a few copper heatsinks to go over GPU mosfets and VRAM. You could get a full GPU block, but once you upgrade/replace that GPU, it'll need to be sold or binned - again, not worth the purchase, imo.


Edited by Thingamajig - 6/1/11 at 5:31am
post #19 of 44
Trick question here.

Water cooling is still handcuffed by ambient temps.

While is does preform better than high quality air in many cases, it is not a night and day difference.

it is however fun and if done with care can be way cool looking and very impresive to friends and family that are not fimiliar with the particulars.

But ultimantly real world overclocking results are subjective. If overclocking is what your aim is here look to colder solutions, sub ambient will ultimatly be the only way to push enough volts for clocks above average.

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post #20 of 44
It's worth it...


Not to have your GPUs baking whatever is behind your PC


Watercooling dropped something like 40-50oC off my GPU!



As for people saying there's no change over the H50, get real. ~ The number of threads I've seen of people getting H50s for their loop and then discovering that the cooling isn't so great...

There are exceptions ofc, but IMO, they are the minority.



The real question is, is it worth it to you? is it worth taking the cooling to the next level to scape those few extra degrees of heat away from the CPU? For some of us, the answer is yes, others, no.



Little note.
Mostly where the H50 fails seems to be on big chips, like the 970 and 980 made a mockery of the H50.

Sandy bridge chips seem to be better on it, I've seen them get up to 4.7GHz on a H50 but what lies in wait around the corner with the enthusiast chips. We'll see how the sealed units hold up there
    
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