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Well Intel never really reduced the price of the Yorkfields, even after the Lynnfield launch...which I thought was odd and silly of them. You'd think they'd want to make some effort to clear old inventory, but nay, prices remained as high as ever. And the i5 Clarkdales are really overpriced as a non-Nehalem dual cores; especially when you consider how the i3 Clarkdales were priced. So apart from those two outliers, I think the Intel pricing has been fairly reasonable.
Yorkfield actually went *up* in price after Lynnfield's debut. The Q9550 was $220 when the i5 750 debuted at $200. It soared up to $280 and it's still there.

By the same token, why didn't Lynnfield's prices fall when Sandy was introduced? You'd think Intel would drop the i5 750/60 prices to the $140-160 range and compete against the cheap quads AMD is selling right now.
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Posting in a flame thread, however. Before SandyBridges, recommending an Intel CPU to anyone was hard to do. Beyond a few specific use cases, AMD always had the upper hand in performance/price ratio. Most people don't need anything past a $200 CPU and $200~ and below is all AMD.

This is all of course before Sandy Bridges. Obviously now Intel owns the $200~ market.

Simply saying one > than the other is dumb. Intel has an Extreme Series and AMD does not. It's like saying McDonalds has a better burger than Taco Bell, even tho Taco Bell doesn't even make burgers.
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Damn Core i3 2100 can sure it hold it own against AMD.
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Posting in a flame thread, however. Before SandyBridges, recommending an Intel CPU to anyone was hard to do. Beyond a few specific use cases, AMD always had the upper hand in performance/price ratio. Most people don't need anything past a $200 CPU and $200~ and below is all AMD.

This is all of course before Sandy Bridges. Obviously now Intel owns the $200~ market.

Simply saying one > than the other is dumb. Intel has an Extreme Series and AMD does not. It's like saying McDonalds has a better burger than Taco Bell, even tho Taco Bell doesn't even make burgers.
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I hope comparing the forthcoming SB-E/IB and BD has more of an even result,both current generation architectures instead of comparing AMD's rehashing of years old tech against brand new and die shrunk architecture.
Both manufacturers are offering up some nice processors for not much gold though,which is only a good thing!
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post #46 of 54
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Posting in a flame thread, however. Before SandyBridges, recommending an Intel CPU to anyone was hard to do. Beyond a few specific use cases, AMD always had the upper hand in performance/price ratio. Most people don't need anything past a $200 CPU and $200~ and below is all AMD.

This is all of course before Sandy Bridges. Obviously now Intel owns the $200~ market.

Simply saying one > than the other is dumb. Intel has an Extreme Series and AMD does not. It's like saying McDonalds has a better burger than Taco Bell, even tho Taco Bell doesn't even make burgers.
But the Q9550 was the best ~$200 buy long before Sandy, and was easily the best/most recommended processor in that range in it's hey-day. After that the Lynnfields took it's place. Intel owned the $200 market long before Sandy. Look at your own rig (and mine) for evidence of that.

Also, your analogy is incorrect. A better analogy would be McDonalds and Burger King - after all, both AMD and Intel make CPUs (hamburgers.)
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Well I've learned one thing from this: even the fastest hardware can't compensate for piss poorly optimized games (Arma II + Crysis) though I knew that already, this just confirmed it for me more. These games can barely differentiate between a freaking hexacore and a dual core chip. If this is the trend in which developers provide support for their games, I dread to think about what the future of PC gaming is going to be like in the future.
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This is all new to me...
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Thanks for the useful info! Rep+

Nice to have a chart with all the CPU's scores available at once.

I just wish they had tested with more games.

Interesting to see how on the 775 platform the FSB speed can make such a big impact. Notice the difference between the QX6800 and the QX6850.

In games there is still not an irresistible deal for me to change CPU, especially overclocked. I had already done the math, but this makes it a little easier.

Also nice to have another confirmation that the Phenom II architecture is clock for clock around 300 Mhz slower than the Core 2 Quads 45nm (interesting from a technological standpoint more than anything else).

Most of this information is for us to feel good or bad about our CPU's or to know what price to pay for a second hand CPU for a secondary system. It will be interesting to see if they update it with the new Bulldozer CPU's when they arrive.
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Nice chart for comparison purposes.
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