Originally Posted by juryben
Bull****. If you guys have high quality grade equipment you can clearly hear a differences in the bass and treble.
But I do agree, on a mobile device it's useless.. for now.
You hear the difference in the treble, you can't really hear the difference in the bass as it's too low. 15's already produce bass audio that's too low for the human ear to distinguish. You MIGHT hear the high noises, though human hearing is generally moot when it comes to FLAC.
There was a big speech/presentation from some huge audio engineers. If you want a true audiophile there isn't anything better than an audio engineer. They pretty much agree, unanimously that lossless codecs are worthless. You can't hear it, you just think you can.
 Crap, I was going to give their best example. One of the things they said is that we have a tendency to focus on one sound at a time. So lets say you play mixed formats of the same song, without a specific pattern to it. You won't know the difference, you'll make poor guesses and occasionally be correct. If you are told what one is the better "format" a unique thing happens. You start to believe that you hear certain sounds "cleaner", like the high hat. This is a problem, as people have been given formats that should be FLAC that aren't and still say this. They will say this over the real FLAC version, which isn't marked as FLAC. They didn't use FLAC rather it's just an example.
What they were trying to get at (not the same example) is that we tend to "pick out" sounds. If we focus on the high hat we will hear it "cleaner" than if we were to focus on the guitar. This happens no matter what equipment you have, because you have selective hearing.
More to the point of selective hearing; If you focus on one sound you can hear more of the sound. If you focus on multiple sounds you hear them but at a very degenerated quality, the brain just can't seem to handle multiple sounds well.
The speech was really good though, it had a bunch of stuff in it.Edited by mushroomboy - 6/3/11 at 3:57pm