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However, what GUI does Fedora 14 use? Gnome? KDE? Either of them should allow you to authenticate yourself as an admin for a period of time.
I recall a setting in there for such, and it defaulted to 15mins when doing this. I can't remember where it is, but make sure you set that a bit longer than default of you'll PW pound ever 15 minutes.
    
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I was up late last night and started googling this subject. There is quite a bit of discussion along the lines of "don't tell me what level of security to run with my OS, this is my decision". Lots of instructions on using sudo. Believe me when I say there are circumstances where I would want an OS to make me pause and think before I removed this feature but this home setting is not one. One of the google answers was "if you do this anyone who could get to your computer could do whatever they wanted" maybe so but computer mischief is not what I fear if a break-in occours. I am so very suprised that the 'big brother" aspect comes from Linux people. I was under the impression that these are the people that say to Microsoft "don't tell me what to do with my computer".I certainly am not the only one writing and asking how to avoid this intrusiveness.
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UAC wasnt accepted well because microsoft did it poorly

really in linux you only have to put your password in for things that SHOULD require it like editing system settings or installing software

youve already been given a solution that will do exactly what you want, just run as root, but i still stand by my earlier statements on this

if you run as root, its basically what microsoft does, admin account all the time
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i always add

%wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL

to my /etc/sudoers file to let me use sudo freely without typing in the password. who cares.
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I was up late last night and started googling this subject. There is quite a bit of discussion along the lines of "don't tell me what level of security to run with my OS, this is my decision". Lots of instructions on using sudo. Believe me when I say there are circumstances where I would want an OS to make me pause and think before I removed this feature but this home setting is not one. One of the google answers was "if you do this anyone who could get to your computer could do whatever they wanted" maybe so but computer mischief is not what I fear if a break-in occours. I am so very suprised that the 'big brother" aspect comes from Linux people. I was under the impression that these are the people that say to Microsoft "don't tell me what to do with my computer".I certainly am not the only one writing and asking how to avoid this intrusiveness.
It's built in security that makes linux more secure. We guard our root passwords with out lives, but sudo will give you closer to what you want. I don't run much as root daily, besides the occasional update or if I set something up. I really don't see the issue, but yes, the beauty of linux is that you can run things your way.
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esocid, that is exactly what I was getting at. If I want to be a dunce and ignore security then let this be my decision and don't force restrictions on me. I can look at it another way, how can I complain, I got the OS for free? My answer is a bit like the Sarah Palin situation. If I was not told everyday how great and perfect she is (saviour of the modern world and all that) I would not look so hard for the warts. The same goes with overly agressive fans of Linux, these type simply just push too hard as an example of
perfection in an OS. If you do not want more acceptance (more than the 2 or 3 percent you have now) by the mainstream public, go ahead and make the same mistakes Microsoft did. When you think of it, why is not a free OS slapping Microsoft to the curb and dominating? America just loves anything free, even if it tastes bad.
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esocid, that is exactly what I was getting at. If I want to be a dunce and ignore security then let this be my decision and don't force restrictions on me. I can look at it another way, how can I complain, I got the OS for free? My answer is a bit like the Sarah Palin situation. If I was not told everyday how great and perfect she is (saviour of the modern world and all that) I would not look so hard for the warts. The same goes with overly agressive fans of Linux, these type simply just push too hard as an example of
perfection in an OS. If you do not want more acceptance (more than the 2 or 3 percent you have now) by the mainstream public, go ahead and make the same mistakes Microsoft did. When you think of it, why is not a free OS slapping Microsoft to the curb and dominating? America just loves anything free, even if it tastes bad.
you are honestly the loudest person ive ever heard complain about something as simple as putting in your password... windows UAC asked for a password for EVERYTHING it was ridiculous garbage, it was a poorly implemented copy cat of the sudo system that has existed in linux for a long time with no problem... linux only asks for your password on things that SHOULD require it

you can compromise your own security however you want, youve been told several methods of how to do this... youve also been told its a stupid choice, if you are fine with making a stupid choice go for it no one is stopping you but if you want to be a network administrator, this isnt a small deal, and you should really reconsider your career choice if putting in an admin password to do administrative tasks is that big of a problem for you

comparing linux sudo to windows UAC is so stupid its hilarious, UAC was a sad attempt of microsoft at making a security solution similar to the sudo system
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I am just relating what a little bit of google research has made me aware of. Perhaps you yourself should take a look at your people skills as I get the feeling you are wasting your money if your plan to work long with others






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I am just relating what a little bit of google research has made me aware of. Perhaps you yourself should take a look at your people skills as I get the feeling you are wasting your money if your plan to work long with others






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its not people skills its common sense job requirements... you dont make the cut for network administrator in my book if you cant deal with multi user permissions
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Based on your previous comments I was not so suprised you would think this way. I guess it is good for me what you think don't mean squat.My conclusion why Linux will never "make the big time" like Microsoft has with the general public is poor customer support from people that think like you. It is good they do give the OS away as with your type of customer support the only customer you would have is yourself. No jive, poor customer support is exactly what will keep the numbers using Linux distros for desktop work in the single digits. It will never be anything but an oddity with the general public due to poor customer support, but if it was supported by people that cared about their customers it may have had a chance.Some of the letters I came accross looking into this issue were down right hostile towards Linux, and it did not have to be this way.The thing is for free and you still can't grab any decent portion of the market, not the product but the people supporting it.Have a nice day.

This link is pretty long but it does spell out real good just where the support given to the person who wants to try Linux at home is turned off by the support,lack of support and duplication of incorrect support. The link is from 2009 as I did not think it was fair to link the reports from earlier days,they were simply too brutal.
http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/200...ainstream.html
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