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post #21 of 74
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This is going to be a problem for Apple.
This is already a problem for Apple!

"Now now, people, iPads still don't get viruses!"
 
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post #22 of 74
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And technically, it's 100% accurate. OS X does not get affected by Windows viruses. Though there have been malicious scripts for ages, there hasn't really been a real virus out there that propagates itself. This is a Trojan, and there's been various ones before it as well.
I agree with this guy. I own a mac and... no defender virus yet. Just gotta use your brain.
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post #23 of 74
I don't understand all the hate, the exact same thing has happened to Windows many times.

Granted, they may deal with it faster, but this is one of the first they've had to address by themselves, so it'll probably be circumvented, yes, just as some Windows ones were, are, and will be.

At the end of the day, OSX only has one virus (and it's slight variations), but windows has thousands upon thousands, with much more malicious intent, execution, and result, so get down off of your high horses and back into reality.

    
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post #24 of 74

This is now false advertising...

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post #25 of 74
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I don't understand all the hate, the exact same thing has happened to Windows many times.

Granted, they may deal with it faster, but this is one of the first they've had to address by themselves, so it'll probably be circumvented, yes, just as some Windows ones were, are, and will be.

At the end of the day, OSX only has one virus (and it's slight variations), but windows has thousands upon thousands, with much more malicious intent, execution, and result, so get down off of your high horses and back into reality.

That's asinine.

The hate here is due to Apples own arrogance. They have all this hate coming to them after years of bashing PC's because "Macs dont get virus'". Not making fun of this situation would be hypocritical. We're not laughing and them and hating on them BECAUSE they got a virus, we're laughing at them and hating on them because THEY SAID they couldn't.
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Now the cat and mouse game begins...
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post #27 of 74
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Originally Posted by SmokinWaffle View Post
I don't understand all the hate, the exact same thing has happened to Windows many times.

Granted, they may deal with it faster, but this is one of the first they've had to address by themselves, so it'll probably be circumvented, yes, just as some Windows ones were, are, and will be.

At the end of the day, OSX only has one virus (and it's slight variations), but windows has thousands upon thousands, with much more malicious intent, execution, and result, so get down off of your high horses and back into reality.

I'll even point out that this is't even a virus. It's socially engineered malware made to attack that nifty device between the keyboard and the chair of a mac.

What you have to understand is OSX truly is more secure than windows purely because of it's Unix heritage. Apple has bastardized it in more ways than one over time, but you just don't get the drive by infections Windows was famous for back in the day. Apple used that fact to their advantage [the "No-Viruses for Apple" campaign] and now they're paying the price for preying on the computer illiterate.

TL;DR, A computer is only as secure as it's weakest link, and the weakest link in OSX is the average Apple user.
post #28 of 74
Obscurity != Security,

This is malware, and malware is not a virus.

Even though its installed by mis-informed/ill guided/ignorant consumers, Apple does share some blame:

That would be Apple's fault for lulling them into a false sense of security via their marketing stints over the last decade it seems.

Their failure to address the issues at hand with consumers, where it was initially leaked by internal employees not to help them, instead of publicly and loudly admitting we have a problem, so that consumers can stop being ignorant and be more careful.

Their quick out the door patch to prevent a specific vulnerability, without taking a step back and check their ego. Its time to begin pro-actively finding vulnerabilities on their own and patch it.

Hello Apple, welcome to the party.
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post #29 of 74
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That's asinine.

The hate here is due to Apples own arrogance. They have all this hate coming to them after years of bashing PC's because "Macs dont get virus'". Not making fun of this situation would be hypocritical. We're not laughing and them and hating on them BECAUSE they got a virus, we're laughing at them and hating on them because THEY SAID they couldn't.

++ this ^^

Apple for years always talked about how Macs are more secure than Windows and the chance of something like this, let it be a virus/malware/adware , happening is so slim, its almost impossible. Now, Mac Defender happens, and show Macs are as unsecure as Windows. At the end of the day, Apple can't defend its OS against stupid users, users, that Apple supports and pretty much breeds. They don't teach their users baisc security, because hey, they have a Mac, they wont get that stuff

Anti virus? You have a Mac, you don't need it!
Edited by konoii - 6/1/11 at 5:36pm
post #30 of 74
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Originally Posted by RagingCain View Post
Obscurity != Security,

This is malware, and malware is not a virus.

Even though its installed by mis-informed/ill guided/ignorant consumers, Apple does share some blame:

That would be Apple's fault for lulling them into a false sense of security via their marketing stints over the last decade it seems.

Their failure to address the issues at hand with consumers, where it was initially leaked by internal employees not to help them, instead of publicly and loudly admitting we have a problem, so that consumers can stop being ignorant and be more careful.

Their quick out the door patch to prevent a specific vulnerability, without taking a step back and check their ego. Its time to begin pro-actively finding vulnerabilities on their own and patch it.

Hello Apple, welcome to the party.
The truth hurts, doesnt it.

At the end of the day, Macs are way more secure than any PC. That's a matter of fact, not opinion.
 
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