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Originally Posted by Malcolm;15507786 
I'm a huge fan (huehuehuehuehuehue) of SilverStone's case fan offerings, but a lot of people avoid Noctua simply because of the color. It baffles me. As you said, price-performance. As for aesthetic appeal.... headscratch.gif
SilverStone has actually had one of the worst case records with their fans. High RMA rates and poor performance across many lines.
The only Silverstone fans I have that I like (besides the AP181's) is the 92mm fans that come in an 80mm (round) housing.
FN82's is what they're called.
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Originally Posted by BeerPowered;15507941 
Asaka Vipers are even better IMO. I don't think they are any louder(My ears can't tell the difference), and they offer triple the static pressure. Of course mine are hooked up via PWM and controlled via software profile.

I've not heard Viper's besides Martin's recordings. Which are not entirely accurate to what I hear with a Yate, GT, ZM-F3-FDB, ZM-SF3, or any of the other fans that I already own and he tested.

I'd be happy to throw in my subjective opinion on them if I got 1 to listen to though. biggrin.gif

Though, I did look up spec's on the Viper and it's not 3x that of a GT. An AP-15 (closest thing in RPM level) is 2.12mmH20 vs the Viper's 2.98mmH20 which is ~ a 40% increase in static pressure. Though the actual difference is not that great in a real world scenario.
3x greater static pressure would be 6.36mmH20 at that RPM level.
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Originally Posted by nagle3092;15507957 
I talked to Jakob, a couple weeks ago he said they ran into slight production problems (didn't specify what). That being said the fans got pushed back to late Nov, early Dec for release to retailers.

Sent from my LG-VM670

It's actually an issue regarding my biggest complaint with the SSO bearing (the leaking issue.)
Hopefully they actually get it worked out and don't shove out yet another half hearted
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Originally Posted by pale_neon;15506765 
it's much more than a small decrease in noise. it's a big decrease. the decibel scale is not linear; it's logarithmic.

a quiet room is about 30dB, a vacuum cleaner is about 70db.

Their heatsinks are also so good they can rival water cooling many times. Water cooling isnt cheap either.

I never said it was linear. Compare the sound level of a cheap (and effective) pwm cooler master fan that costs 1/3 the price controlled under smart fan control. If you use smart fan control with good fans the noise difference for most people is small. Just to give you an idea I have 2 CM fans on my heatsink running at 721 RPM in the front (push) and 1230 RPM for the rear (pull) under smart fan control. I have them spinning low and they are silent. No cooling issues at all.

It really depends on setup. Are you blasting non-pwm fans at full RPM? Choose effective but silent fans with 4 pins and control it in your bios... you may be surprised and realize that some of the higher end fan prices are just highway robbery.

Don't get me wrong, Noctua makes great products and I like Noctua but the cost, to me, greatly outweighs the marginal pros. Also, I am not talking about their heatsinks, I am specifically talking about their fans (which they sell separately).
post #143 of 155
Noctua would see a noticeable increase in sales if they simply offered their fans in more color schemes. Whoever is leading Noctua with the goal of having all their products come in ONLY retro-70's style has an extremely thick skull, it'd be the equivalent of Lamborghini refusing to sell their cars in any other color than yellow.

This is OCN, quite a few people actually care about what their interior looks like (otherwise nobody would sleeve/mod/paint/etc). I'm one of those people who would love to use Noctua's products, if only they didn't come in that god-awful style that makes my eyes bleed and clashes horrendously with my black/blue case.
I wish I could take the D14 and airbrush the fans a different color, although that would probably hurt performance.
post #144 of 155
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Originally Posted by Tator Tot;15507547 
Check out the Gentle Typhoon 2150 RPM made by Nidec Servo

By far the best sound profile on the market right now. They range from 750 RPM to 2150RPM. In terms of CFM, Noise, Static Pressure; they blow the competition out of the way.

Haven't heard the GT. Watercooled with Triebwerk mids as radiator fans and using Noctua NF S12's as case fans. Might try the GT's some day, thanks for the tip. smile.gif
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It's funny watching computer geeks fight over fashion. Get over the color, nobody but your mommy and little sister will ever see your basement computer room. lol
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post #146 of 155
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Originally Posted by xenophobe;15511385 
It's funny watching computer geeks fight over fashion. Get over the color, nobody but your mommy and little sister will ever see your basement computer room. lol
Pretty ignorant post.

So, latest word is this design got pushed back to Nov/Dec?
I am interested in this design. I my self haven't seen a case fan with stators and how it affects performance.
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post #147 of 155
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Originally Posted by xenophobe;15511385 
It's funny watching computer geeks fight over fashion. Get over the color, nobody but your mommy and little sister will ever see your basement computer room. lol

Truth

Beige, blue or black, you're still a loser in the eyes of most.
post #148 of 155
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Originally Posted by Tator Tot;15506783 

On the other hand, Noctua does make a solid product with the D14, except that for the same price you can get the Silver Arrow which has better thermal conductivity and overall better performance with quieter fans (that are better built as well.)

Noctua's $25 fans are easily beat in Price vs Performance (in either CFM & Static Pressure or CFM to Noise ratio)

This is the one time that I would have to disagree.

The ty-140's I find have a higher pitch whine than the NF-p14 FLX, I find the tone of the Noctua to be more level. As for build quality the ty-140 feels like a cheap plastic y POS compared to the NF-P14 FLX.

Not to mention the ty 140 has one third the warranty the noctua has. But I do agree on the leaking bearing issue.
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Originally Posted by smash_mouth01;13721784 
they must be alright because they pack them onto this prototype cooler with a much higher fin density than all the other noctua coolers.

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Originally Posted by smash_mouth01;15511622 
This is the one time that I would have to disagree.

The ty-140's I find have a higher pitch whine than the NF-p14 FLX, I find the tone of the Noctua to be more level. As for build quality the ty-140 feels like a cheap plastic y POS compared to the NF-P14 FLX.

Not to mention the ty 140 has one third the warranty the noctua has. But I do agree on the leaking bearing issue.
I'm not sure what fan you're using but the TY-140 & TY-150 are both made of PBT Plastic instead of the ABS plastic of the Noctua fans.

Like wise, both my NF-140PLX & TY-140 are in Mint Condition and perform at specs. And the TY-140 is a better fan in all regards RPM for RPM and SPL or SPL.
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