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this is why AMD is going to be better than intel. first off you got the 8 core bulldozer with like 2 modules per core, and each module is pretty much a core. so for 8 core bulldozer its really like a 16 core and at 4.8ghz (which probly will get over 5ghz because these are FX procesors) that's like 5*16 = 8,0000hz for only 300$ which is a lot. sandy bridge dont stand a chance.
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post #142 of 159
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this is why AMD is going to be better than intel. first off you got the 8 core bulldozer with like 2 modules per core, and each module is pretty much a core. so for 8 core bulldozer its really like a 16 core and at 4.8ghz (which probly will get over 5ghz because these are FX procesors) that's like 5*16 = 8,0000hz for only 300$ which is a lot. sandy bridge dont stand a chance.
you are wrong. its 4 module, 2 core per module. oh and you cannot multiplicate cores by Hz. single threaded application will not use all Hz from all cores, but from only one.
Edited by prznar1 - 6/5/11 at 8:50pm
post #143 of 159
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you are wrong. its 4 module, 2 core per module. oh and you cannot multiplicate cores by Hz. single threaded application will not use all Hz from all cores, but from only one.
so what ur sayin is... with turbo core, some cores will be like 4.2ghz, and one at 5ghz?

like ((4.2 + 4.2 + 4.2 ) * 2 + (5) * 2 ) * 2? thats still almost 80000hz
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post #144 of 159
im saing that the performance of cpu is not related to its clocks or cores count, but to flops it can computate, for signle and multithreaded app.
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im saing that the performance of cpu is not related to its clocks or cores count, but to flops it can computate, for signle and multithreaded app.
but flops count on speed and number of cores. if it didnt those wouldnt exist.
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not exacly speed by core. its bit more complicated. intervals of instructions and all other craps like that got influence on flops count.
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lol dzalias you are so confused/misinformed.
I dont know where to start.

At a really low level nutshell

Module = two cores are inside
Modules save die space sharing parts between cores but come at a performance loss theoretically speaking

8 cores, and AMD then has work to do designing the module design to do good in single thread since I just said theoretically instructions per clock would go down in some apps due to shared parts

This will go up against 2600K, 4 cores 8 threads, chances are due to module design it will possibly beat it in multithreaded apps, but not single threaded which is an issue but we will see.

Again FX 8 cores will be 4 modules 8 cores, in fact AMD shouldnt have used the word module as it confused the heck out of people like you. Forget the module word completely, its an 8 core CPU with 8 threads.


As far as how you have done with math thats absolutely atrocious...flops are compute performance.
If you go by your math a Phenom II X4 will do as well as Core i7 9/8 series when it wont get close... in anything.

If you want to go with real scaling then you will have

3.2 to 3.8 Ghz over 8 cores at 100% load like cinebench (trust me no turbo it wont stay in TDP) about a 6.8x multiprocessor speedup due to single thread turbo and multicore efficiency losses
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can anyone confirm or deny BD support on the crosshair IV formula or is this still up in the air?
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post #149 of 159
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Do you guys think youll be able to disable every-other-core? So that you're left with essentially a quad core with 2mb L2 cache for each core? Or will disabling features only work by the module?

Edit: if there are any disabling features at all..
FX-8XXX = No cores Disabled
FX-6XXX = 1 Module Disabled with 2 Cores
FX-4XXX = 2 Module's Disabled with 4 Cores

It's quite possible. We may find a way to possibly unlock the cores or even be able to disable and re-enable cores at our whim.
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can anyone confirm or deny BD support on the crosshair IV formula or is this still up in the air?
This is confirmed. Check the ASUS page for a BIOS update.

Do note that AMD does not support this configuration so you may be leaving some BD performance "on the table".
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